From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 2 7:13:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from brain.mics.net (brain.mics.net [209.41.216.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3FF37B406 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 07:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by brain.mics.net (Postfix, from userid 150) id 594EA17BD5; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brain.mics.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B67215CC5; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: David Scheidt To: j mckitrick Cc: Paul Robinson , Brad Knowles , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: code density vs readability In-Reply-To: <20011002142257.C98079@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, j mckitrick wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 01:52:26PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote: > | a lot of code editing on live, remote servers. Don't ask. Needless to say, > | when you have minicom up, and you're dialled into a BSD box 300 miles away > | and you need to change that line *there* and the term settings aren't right, > | you end up quickly re-learning ed. Very quickly. And yes, we can talk about > > This is why they tell us we should all learn our way around vi because > it is *always* there, unlike other editors, and it was *designed* for > just this kind of environment (slow terminals, odd settings, etc). No, vi only works if you've got a reasonable terminal. If you're using a teletype, or a some sort of hardcopy terminal, or you're connected to a terminal server who thinks all the world is some sort AT&T terminal that you've never seen, or you're missing /etc/termcap, you're not going to be doing well with vi. That's why you need to know ed. ed(1) is your friend. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message