Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 22:04:15 +0000 From: Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> To: "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth? Message-ID: <BN6PR2001MB173021B0A3CFE6E9A15C29F4803F0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <eeeab339fdb4b75a0ba9471e5e050a1f@udns.ultimatedns.net> References: <BN6PR2001MB17309152A0FC3776781AB53B803E0@BN6PR2001MB1730.namprd20.prod.outlook.com> <eeeab339fdb4b75a0ba9471e5e050a1f@udns.ultimatedns.net>
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--=-=QYEpzUer3tr7hd=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, December 3, 2017 3:46 PM, Chris H stated: > On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 +0000 "FreeBSD Ports ML" <freebsd-> ports@fre= ebsd.org> said > > On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: > > > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +0000, Ben Woods wrote: > > > > Hi Carmel, > > > > > > > > My understanding is that poudriere is the only package building > > > > system that is officially supported by the portmgr, apart from raw > make. > > > > > > > > There are many other nice ports building tools contributed by the > > > > community, which each have their niche market, but the maintenance > > > > of those tools is a community responsibility also. > > > > > > > > The announcement of impending flavors and breakage of package > > > > building infrastructure that doesn=E2=80=99t support it was some ti= me ago > > > > (I believe at least 6 months), with a number of reminders since > > > > then. If a community > > > > > > > Yes, 6 months but IMO ports maintainers have still 2 or three months. > > > They "pushed" flavors out to early. I do not why. > > > > Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning > > how to use an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a > > relatively small home network. > > > > I am hoping that someone can get "synth" back up and working > > correctly. If not it might be time for me to look at another OS for my > > network. > > > > Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", > > "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has > done > > a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent. Which > > brings me to what happens if I do embrace "poudriere". How long before > > that becomes history also? > port-mgmt/poudriere gets the attention, and maintenance that it does, > because it was created, and is maintained by someone with a commit bit > (bdrewery). > port-mgmt/synth was also created, and maintained by someone with a > commit bit (jmarino). > However, John's commit bit was taken away. While I'll not comment as to > why, nor elaborate on my personal stand/feelings regarding that action. I= can > say that he has superseded synth with an application called Ravenports[1]. > I also attempted to take on ports-mgmt/portmaster early on in my > endeavors as a ports maintainer. However, that experience also didn't go > well, and I'll not bog this thread down with the details. My main intent = for my > reply, is simply to indicate as to why history has been the way it has re= garding > the other ports management utilities, and to indicate there is another > possible solution, that was not previously mentioned. That I thought you > (and others?) might be interested in. :) I just checked out < https://github.com/jrmarino/Ravenports/wiki/quickstart= -freebsd>=20 and < http://ravenports.ironwolf.systems/>; and I have to admit that I am in= terested.=20 I am wondering if it will ever get accepted into the ports system. --=20 Carmel --=-=QYEpzUer3tr7hd=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEh3rFs7ZCOM581rwKjsagALPkYOsFAlokdNEACgkQjsagALPk YOuP4Af9FVEAw26d9mSzIGKjmSkt8T2FWZiEkrE1JNeljMSMs08PofoOl+pdJLyM CAH8qr56kaxEJK3n8/dEnAQDjJO2iM34NM8YWMH2mbwnkP0DScNllrnoR/YpiqN6 xEHpNqhCRdrj9Jm5csvMvHBYID01FA1X860fFnE+DbP3qUkRMORrmu5E0la4dhro NYoc4bToNp5rUMfpb9FHr8PcrnIQW4n59c97BN1kVhsHQlVy6lDSdK96uFPQPdqy s1G/wmBMhR6dPVKzp+qvSayusGlWSxmXa+Tq02DHOynjHaZxnE1h/GRU9pdP14Qw I7VqxnCkIq16X7tYVgptDfsd7CoeXg== =QZ1t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=QYEpzUer3tr7hd=-=--
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