From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 9 18:34:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDB916A41B for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from a.cs.okstate.edu (a.cs.okstate.edu [139.78.113.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE2413C442 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 18:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lreid@cs.okstate.edu) Received: from [172.18.0.137] (isa01.tulsatech.org [70.168.226.131]) by a.cs.okstate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4B1A07C7; Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:34:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <46BB5E47.4060201@cs.okstate.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:34:47 -0500 From: Reid Linnemann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kelly References: <46BA9682.7020203@ix.netcom.com> <20070809140617.GB10705@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <20070809185248.J71656@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20070809173032.GB12072@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <46BB4FE0.5060500@cs.okstate.edu> <20070809175614.GA12755@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> In-Reply-To: <20070809175614.GA12755@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Reid Linnemann , FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Convince me, please! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:34:50 -0000 Written by David Kelly on 08/09/07 12:56>> > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 12:33:20PM -0500, Reid Linnemann wrote: >> Written by David Kelly on 08/09/07 12:30>> >>> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:54:37PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>>> For the best user experience, and Unix too: MacOS X. >>>> a very little unix (few tools and kernel) + lots of bulky overhead ... >>> Try it, you will find otherwise. The user interface works without >>> hassle. MacOS X comes with more standard utilities than does FreeBSD, >>> for instance procmail, fetchmail, sqlite3, Apache, php 4.4.7, ... >> Not that I'm against your argument that OS X is a good system, but since >> when are 3rd party services standard utilities? > > What "standard utility" in FreeBSD didn't start somewhere outside of > BSD? > I'm not talking about origins, I'm talking about maintainers. The software you've listed are maintained by third parties not affiliated with either operating system, so I don't see how you can consider them "standard utilities".