From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 30 23:19:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179A1106564A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920CF8FC18 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:19:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so402529eyd.7 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:19:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KDkpXAVvTHQyVjQgZGIkwRGETIWL375VodUuUaQcdYs=; b=LGwXBuerRZ5dzm4Euc4MXjmctBH1WyXpXB/Ava9tL4T1yMwJxbv5oGKHNoMDZ5SSCR bnZeD1DLnathEwgK2Sz5F9efYkubzrxxIk0bK9TT4qQW8Ti718UiN6KaCYF86XS3jCBA b90Wqu6v90i/cdXbysSoL7AhHncY7CFkh+OxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=awODdlbhQ9bOhPaMvcOiFAB7bImWOTFV2u3sXenlMqVrPWONBpnKLlaiY1a6QbS76n d1gYO6U9uEvur9dh6aVLPacOv72eykCJOloL/VjnapmOR1LykKPccPooRNazLDCi4d0W Dr/EmsDa2hRJcu+sCaJdwcyOLU/JngHqFTU64= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.78.16 with SMTP id a16mr233439ebb.1.1248994207078; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:50:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> References: <4A71F561.2050103@videotron.ca> <6201873e0907301306x4bc9a4c6n3e8ca0affc7d8fe5@mail.gmail.com> <200907301308.01035.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Freminlins To: Mel Flynn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More , Andrew Gould , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, PJ Subject: Re: 7.2 RELEASE ? Buggy as hell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:19:40 -0000 2009/7/30 Mel Flynn > > > You should really be using PCBSD if you want a packaged desktop system, f= or > which the developers claim responsibility and for which much (if not all) > of > the configuration has been done for you. I disagree with that. It even says on the FreeBSD web site "FreeBSD=AE is a= n advanced operating system for modern server, desktop...". I have used FreeBSD on the desktop for about 6 years (but not yet running 7.2). It has mostly been a pleasure. I didn't like it when X was changed to individual packages, as it now takes considerably longer to install. And th= e output from pkg_info takes correspondingly longer to search through. It als= o installs two scripting languages (Perl and Python). I haven't had a problem configuring X for years. If something has changed which then causes problems to end users, then that is not good. And it's no good telling people "use PCBSD" or something else. That's not what we want. We want to use FreeBSD on the desktop. Don't try and put people off using FreeBSD. It would be much better to help them resolves the problems they are having. > > -- > Mel MF. >