From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mon Mar 5 08:27:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314ECF3D41B for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 08:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vbotka@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 993906B5C5 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 08:27:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vbotka@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id t6so13712130wmt.5 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 00:27:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:mime-version; bh=TSnKsKgyu6XrAdiFfplYqpCGWn4QKlUnCsA3gC4ETA0=; b=VbzTzq+I1n22UrG8HhoSKvUrYdFMki3GqvriZ7RrpW6l2F1E1Sna9EmdJyz+aA9cjw hobNTvCEaJFG51fFOFDW1eVTtogpEijz5TD7EOQ4yrkpA9cSkmlTwBzZnt0BLIiWY3+B 10jCAEhTGQIBU46LsCTtHTexICArZNVqE3z18VB2V0GPDwEip2tENLPEajwRiYjfu04x IXbHMmnLz48AIerd2j6codfyhooixogOUWGxFCnssn9PjPXMZK+RyPCCu4xGIO26CFs2 mLtb18CcUBWcHI/fU9dP7Sg/tYRJn02jNcf50tOmU6Rknct+NCdwkPklo2IwHd0jberr vY7Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:mime-version; bh=TSnKsKgyu6XrAdiFfplYqpCGWn4QKlUnCsA3gC4ETA0=; b=U4nMThbQv64dJ/x5dkIhBhriL2K+JlftQ6TvZpbf0bkDEDFh8xdQr+X4Lw7G0rx46j vyzWSiIT+ZYc10unFxrVmOFSDAlkt8qMjsAab4MJ4+wN8Kiyr6lZRKxHgartqwxMhAHn 6Y/UNE7tYJ6cqzSHpSnrNKS0gf8hziHtT1CfoBl8RPot7eP0KpBR8G+b8pBpXfVQ9g3G 8KFtB7IzQ0LPTLBkZVLcp2qHpZ9Kn5clLorUGLscikEusLNaUbS/MME7wnuBLibeghyT xdKyz4gn1mndScSK6wIFPKfqzgBGXlJMZxplNyf6kptxKhfscR4VRrZHWNcgz/TgeFPP ilxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7EK+AKB/Vm7uAouYa+ulmkIhIW8HJyAMgmIyNiSINuFEA24z4P2 OsTQwUj1RRrsHSqt0g2iDagjVT1K X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELusXz9DwzW82T6EEZIAcXjnewYhIhxXD74cggZrAY1D7gBteQ/2FnQhTOd0Od0NFwmwby+BTw== X-Received: by 10.28.126.20 with SMTP id z20mr7197723wmc.152.1520238430467; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 00:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from planb.netng.org (ip-89-103-146-20.net.upcbroadband.cz. [89.103.146.20]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i12sm14513676wrc.28.2018.03.05.00.27.08 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 05 Mar 2018 00:27:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 09:27:07 +0100 From: Vladimir Botka To: Franco Fichtner Cc: Jeff Roberson , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem Message-ID: <20180305092707.0f55ce55@planb.netng.org> In-Reply-To: <534485E2-7E07-4438-AD04-B4D9D1F90978@lastsummer.de> References: <534485E2-7E07-4438-AD04-B4D9D1F90978@lastsummer.de> Organization: na X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.0-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.31; i686-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/lB07bI/BDdbG+hVjNV/MyRB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 08:27:12 -0000 --Sig_/lB07bI/BDdbG+hVjNV/MyRB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:40:48 +0100 Franco Fichtner wrote: > > On 4. Mar 2018, at 10:02 PM, Jeff Roberson wr= ote: > > I would urge everyone to be calm and patient. This is an important dia= log and it's bound to be bumpy. I also strongly urge people to refrain fro= m discussing it further on technical lists where it is counter productive a= nd unwelcome. =20 > So you are saying "shut up" and be patient like we've never been patient = in > the last couple of years? That's bold, but unfortunately also consistent= MO. > Cheers, > Franco He said you should refrain from discussing it on technical lists. You might want to consider freebsd-chat. -vlado --Sig_/lB07bI/BDdbG+hVjNV/MyRB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJanP9bAAoJEJDRmRKO1E8BNIMH+gKp1G93Qo/Q9bpYuxZLloZm KdGlfODxmjeWDUD0FBK/7wTdv0zQ3czI930pE5OaS9gqUYMzCtfvpskQj/Neu0FP ErxaL2Dd9ISiT4VIvdI78ahP4A89l8Y6oIyDlMjn+GXxInPJcYoRyHLgkNjWPem8 kHiwf0Bl0YEgwDuEoRixskgEyrBZteDiN6py0svtcxWK4Lh4RWIpty75wCuL+AtJ W3TIEh9dVG90C+WGl+Y1b9ejh7y5su8AoVZ+Ij4dJ9n6UOY7D1H0jXTBk927DTWl fP358yXa3bUMUEooAbZNE3R2kmvoSNlaGw5aULz2Ld9oZUW9zV1GWcZb5UAKbXI= =yMip -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/lB07bI/BDdbG+hVjNV/MyRB--