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Date:      Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:46:55 -0800
From:      Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Ryan Kois <ryan.kois@gmail.com>, re@freebsd.org, Claudia Yadathi <yadathi@gmail.com>, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How to make a FreeBSD vm in virtualbox.
Message-ID:  <EEB7D3E9-DE01-4151-AD78-6FD036E4017C@gmail.com>
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On Dec 31, 2014, at 10:44, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 12/31/14 10:34 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>> On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:15, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 08:48:01AM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014, Glen Barber wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 10:04:38PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>>>>>> I think 'ifconfig_DEFAULT="DHCP"' in rc.conf(5) is what you want.
>>>>>> Do we want this by default in all images?  (I would vote yes).
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd actually argue 'no.'  As a sysadmin, I don't want any system doing
>>>>> anything I don't expect it to do, virtual machine or not.
>>>> It can have security implications.  And I've never tested what happens when
>>>> there is more than one interface.  First one wins, probably.
>>>> 
>>>> How about adding it to rc.conf, but commented?
>>>> 
>>> I think this would be the least objectionable solution, with a note in
>>> motd mentioning how to enable networking.
>> Why not do what a lot of OSes do and give folks a dialog that says,
>> 
>> “I saw you haven’t setup networking — do you want to do so now?”
>> 
>> It’s already in bsdinstall… moving it into the boot process earlier on seems like an acceptable thing to do.
>> 
>> Thanks!
> 
> That is fucking brilliant... seriously.

Thanks :)

> If you user picks "no" you can just make a sentinal file (that expert users can make be default if they are rolling their own releases).

Yeah, that would be nice.

We could also add a timeout of 3-5 seconds or something to the dialog (that might be possible with some of the changes that dteske has done with dpv?), so it proceeds on to the login prompt if not prompted so non-interactive installs still work.

Or we could formalize the non-interactive install process, but that seems like a larger task because it would potentially require some redesign of bsdinstall.

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