Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:00:13 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> To: Maciej Sobczak <prog@msobczak.com> Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: C++ in the kernel Message-ID: <20071030230013.GB33488@elvis.mu.org> In-Reply-To: <47274A29.9040801@msobczak.com> References: <23408.1193557610@critter.freebsd.dk> <p06240801c34bf1e24986@[128.113.24.47]> <20071030055840.GS33488@elvis.mu.org> <47274A29.9040801@msobczak.com>
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* Maciej Sobczak <prog@msobczak.com> [071030 15:55] wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > >I think the right thing to do here is to identify the things we > >need added to C++ and propose those to the standards. > > I think you got it completely backwards. > > First a bit of context - the C++ standard committee is already in deep > sht^H^H^Hwork to get the current proposals straight and ship the new > standard revision, which is already late. No new proposals are accepted, > unless they save the world. > Considering the usual rythm of standardization process, the next chance > to add anything to C++ will be at the end of the next decade. FreeBSD > might be already dead till that time with Linux overtaking whatever is > left from the community. > > You should reverse your thinking and instead ask yourself: what parts > and elements of *current* C++ might be useful for kernel development? > If you identify them you can actually benefit from adapting them. > If not, abandon the idea altogether and continue the current way. > If you try to do anything else, you will only waste resources. I agree that we can use what's currently in C++, additional things we can hack in ourselves and/or propose in the meanwhile. > Actually, C++ is being used in embedded and real-time systems as well as > for signal processing, so apparently there *are* some communities that > already gained experience with constrained use of the language. > Presumably some of the constraints that these people face are also valid > in the kernel world, and presumably some of the solutions might be > successfully reused. > Don't reinvent! Yes. -- - Alfred Perlstein
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