From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 20 13:45:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E325B16A50A for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD9E43CE7 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:45:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kBKDjGnl076106; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:45:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id kBKDjAF4076105; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:45:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:45:09 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20061220134509.GA76033@wjv.com> References: <32799464.1431166588781257.OPEN-XCHANGE.WebMail.www@intranet.mra.co.id> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on bilver.wjv.com Cc: Beastie MRA , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: undeliverable mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:45:38 -0000 On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 23:58 , Men gasped, women fainted, and small children were reduced to tears as Ian Smith confessed to all: > On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Beastie MRA wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2006 10:31 AM, Bill Vermillion wrote: [bunches deleted - wjv] > But I doubt we get 260,000 messages a year here, so listen to Bill :) I used to get 300,000 spams PER DAY for springbreak.com until in desperation I changed the MX records to point to local host. I didn't really want to do that, but I had no choice. The first time that domain was brought up in 1995, before I got involved with the principles. It was up for only about 2 - 3 weeks before the ISP turned them off as it was totally overloading their T1. So they became their own IPS with a dedicatd T1 to AGIS - back before it became spam central. Keeping track of a domain that comes up #1 in google with only 1 key word can be a pain. Now things are nicer as my servers are inside a rack at the local Level 3 facility and I have 24x7 access in case of problems. Running 100Mbit links into their global OC768 with no provider above me makes things a bit more problematic. The only thing that would make me give up this whole business is the email problem. But all our email clients are business customers that are clients of a local HW/SW support house so I >>NEVER<< have to talk with end users - as the support house does all the trouble shooting on the client side, and I only get real problems forwarded to me. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com