From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 24 11: 4:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from chiba.3jane.net (chiba.3jane.net [207.170.70.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E214E03 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:04:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damon@chiba.3jane.net) Received: from chiba.3jane.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chiba.3jane.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28021; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:02:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199911241902.NAA28021@chiba.3jane.net> To: Jerry Dunham Cc: james.wilde@telia.com (James A Wilde), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Programmers' editor? In-reply-to: <199911241850.MAA31642@freeside.fc.net> References: <199911241850.MAA31642@freeside.fc.net> Comments: In-reply-to Jerry Dunham message dated "Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:50:43 -0600." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <28018.943470155.1@chiba.3jane.net> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:02:35 -0600 From: "Damon M. Conway" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jerry Dunham wrote: >James A Wilde babbled: >> From: "James A Wilde" >> To: > >> Two quickies: >> >> 1) Thanks to all who have helped with a) suggestions about ee, which >> I'll try, and b) hints on some other useful commands I can use in vi. >> My competence in vi has doubled overnight! > >And it wouldn't take much to double it yet again. Somewhere around here >I have a vi cheatsheet that I could send along if you'd find it useful. i've learned almost everything i know about vi from the man page and vim.org. :) >> 2) Sorry that my messages have had no eol breaks in them. For email >> I mostly live in the sheltered world of Windows which takes care of >> that kind of thing for you. I will try and make sure I put in CRLF >> at appropriate places in messages to this - and other UNIX - mailing >> lists to which I subscribe. > >I disagree with your view that Windows takes care of that kind of thing >for you. I spend hours every day in Microsoft Outlook, and I can tell >you with conviction that Windows mailers that I know (cc:Mail, Outlook, >and Netscape) take care of screwing up that kind of thing for you. >They do such a good job that it's nearly impossible to send a message >that arrives unmutilated at a destination using a mailer other than the >one you used to create the message. Outlook messages only look good to >other Outlook users; cc:Mail messages only look good to other cc:Mail >users (and then not always). At least most UNIX mailers allow you to >send out properly formatted messages if you set them up right. windoze sucks for everything except playing games. i'd recommend using vim and putting "set textwidth=75" in your $HOME/.vimrc to make sure your email text is always 75 columns with breaks on word boundaries. i can send you my .vimrc file if you want. >> And I don't really think vi is crap. It's just that the only thing >> less intuitive in its natural state than vi is probably emacs. > and moves out of the war zone> . > >As a heavy (and even heavier after tomorrow's turkey) vi user, I agree >with you. mmm...turkey *drool* damon -- Damon Conway Black Rock City Ranger...Riding the edge of chaos "Ana Ng and I are getting old, but we still haven't walked in the glow of each other's majestic presence." -- TMBG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message