From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 14 22: 1:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3FE37B401 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from jupiter-mail.linuxengine.net (jupiter-mail.linuxengine.net [65.61.129.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2050D43EC2 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:01:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@utzweb.net) Received: from john.utzweb.net.utzweb.net (12-212-100-69.client.attbi.com [12.212.100.69]) by jupiter-mail.linuxengine.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBF61IZF025125; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:01:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 22:02:12 -0800 Message-ID: <8665tvu8ez.wl@utweb.net> From: "John L. Utz III" To: Tobias Roth Cc: Nick Jennings , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libretto 100ct and X In-Reply-To: <20021214160651.A16879@namodn.com> References: <20021213153430.D21307@namodn.com> <20021214114522.GA3509@speedy.unibe.ch> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.10.0 (Venus-pre4) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.24 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey; I'll go one step farther. gosh tobias, your mail to Nick gives the distinct impression that you dont know very much about mobile computing or about how email lists work. How did you ever get the impression that you where the arbiter of content on this email list? It seems to me that an apology is in order. johnu At Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:06:51 -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 12:45:22PM +0100, Tobias Roth wrote: > > Hi > > > > Please do not post such utterly off-topic questions to freebsd-mobile. > > 'What is a good lightweight windowmanager' has nothing to do with > > either freebsd or mobile devices. > > Tobias, I completely disagree here, and I do not think i am alone. A > mobile device, whether it be a laptop or a PDA, depends on an efficient > and easy to use windowmanager (if a graphical interface going to be > used at all). > > If I am wrong, and this list is *not* intended for people to share their > experiences using FreeBSD on mobile devices, then I will concede and > un-subscribe from this list. > > In the future, I would appreciate you keeping your opinions to the list > and not sending them to me in a personal email. > > - Nick Jennings > > > > Kind regards, t. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 03:34:30PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I got my Libretto 100ct about 6 months ago, linux didn't support my > > > PC Card floppy (Toshiba), and I was lazy, so I just left winME on it > > > until just recently I grew extremely fedup with how useless it was to > > > me as a usefull system (and my hand was cramping using that screen mouse > > > thing). > > > > > > FreeBSD saved the day, since it uses the BIOS calls to the floppy device > > > for most of the installation, I was able to do an FTP install booting > > > off the floppy install disks. > > > > > > Now I installed the X port, and am trying to find a windowmanager which > > > will allow me to use the keyboard for all (or most) operations. I > > > wondering if anyone can reccomend to me what they find works (if you > > > use it with your libretto even better). > > > > > > I have tried ion, evilwm, and ratpoison. They all have their ups and > > > downs. I think evilwm is pretty nice, except it has lack of keybinding > > > support, and window control features. > > > > > > What can people suggest for a lightweight, keyboard focused WM? > > > > > > - Nick Jennings > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message