From nobody Fri Apr 28 05:29:47 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Q71Q75QmCz4808Y for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2023 05:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Q71Q64Qjbz48lX; Fri, 28 Apr 2023 05:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA71B89293; Fri, 28 Apr 2023 05:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.17.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 33S5TmsK073164 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 28 Apr 2023 05:29:48 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.17.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 33S5TlU1073163; Fri, 28 Apr 2023 05:29:47 GMT (envelope-from phk) Message-Id: <202304280529.33S5TlU1073163@critter.freebsd.dk> To: Warner Losh cc: freebsd-arch , John Baldwin Subject: Re: Future of 32-bit platforms (including i386) In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <202304271732.33RHWLrw069782@critter.freebsd.dk> List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <73161.1682659787.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 05:29:47 +0000 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Q71Q64Qjbz48lX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N -------- Warner Losh writes: > > If we do, the first two questions we will get back are: > > > > 1. When does 15 happen ? > > > > Late 2025, give or take [...] My point was not so much which specific answers we agree on, as on including those answers, up front, in the 32bit deprecation notice up. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.