From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Apr 3 14:12:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19712 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 14:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tm.net.my (janeway.tm.net.my [202.188.0.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19701 for ; Thu, 3 Apr 1997 14:12:15 -0800 (PST) From: sweeting@tm.net.my Received: from [202.184.153.110] ([202.184.153.110]) by mail.tm.net.my (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA06211; Fri, 4 Apr 1997 06:11:13 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 06:11:13 +0800 (SGT) X-Sender: sweeting@mail.tm.net.my Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: [SUMMARY/SOLVED] Re: POP not recognising passwords : anyone any ideas ? Cc: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you very much to Nick Merrill for this good advice : >why not try telnetting to port 110 and try to read the mail manually. >after you connect, type USER fred >and then type PASSWORD fredspw >and see if it lets you log in. Then you'll get a better idea then >blindly trying to figure it out usingthe pop client's crappy non- >specific error messages that don't really give you what you need >to solve the problem.. > >and tail -f /var/log/maillog and /var/log/auth too at the same time. > >good luck! Telnetting and logging in showed that it was not a POP problem at all. And that the "ERR I said USER fred and then the POP server (fred@virt1.com) said : ERR password for 'fred' is incorrect." message supplied by Eudora was utter crap. (Excuse the language but i had been assuming that a password problem would be due to the Users and POP integration .. and that was why I posted to the FreeBSD list since I thought it would be related to the way users/passwds are stored and accessed). Anyway, if sendmail and pop were working fine, it had to be one thing... DNS. I had made a stupid mistake in the zone file. 10 minutes later and all was running fine ! I have definitely got to start thinking about the OS in the same way as I approach normal programming. Thanks again Nick and everyone else who offered advice. Apologies for the bad form in sending a mail related problem to the freebsd-isp list : I really thought it was due to me shuffling my home directories around. (and even reinstalled FBSD - thank god this OS can install in 10 mins without trouble.) Cheers chas ps. "Kari E. Hurtta" also provided a nice explanation of /usr/sbin/sendmail thanks indeed. sweeting@tm.net.my: > ps. is it also normal to that if you kill sendmail and then > restart with /usr/sbin/sendmail, you get a > "root .... recipient names must be specified" > I get that even on a production machine for which > POP and virtual domains are working fine. With usage: /usr/sbin/sendmail You are sending mail, so sendmail expects to get recipients in command line. To start SMTP deamon, use: /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd To start queue processor deamon, use: /usr/sbin/sendmail -q15m (15m is 15 minutes interval, you perhaps want use different value). To start both, use: /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q15m Sendmail stores pid of SMTP deamon to file /etc/sendmail.pid.