From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 10 00:55:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A12216A405 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA3C43D49 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:55:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3A0rWSK027226; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 18:53:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 18:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20060409.185335.105395062.imp@bsdimp.com> To: mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers.102a7e@mired.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <17465.32905.727289.260996@bhuda.mired.org> References: <9399827.1657341144611794358.JavaMail.root@vms070.mailsrvcs.net> <17465.32905.727289.260996@bhuda.mired.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, babkin@users.sourceforge.net, ceri@submonkey.net, scottl@samsco.org Subject: Re: What's in a (device) name? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:55:35 -0000 In message: <17465.32905.727289.260996@bhuda.mired.org> Mike Meyer writes: : The major problem with it is that todays bus architectures don't have : stable device addresses. Instead of devices having a fixed address on : the bus that the user sets, the addresses are assigned as the devices : are discovered. This is pretty much a requirement if you want to sell : hardware to 12:00 flashers. While that's not the market that FreeBSD : deals with, it is the hardware that FreeBSD runs on. usb assigns addresses dynamically. Everyone else does it basically statically. PCI slot/device numbers are static, but extreme configurations can change the bus number. Warner