From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 10 00:07:53 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE95316A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:07:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.finnovative.net (h204-247-59-114.ncal.verio.net [204.247.59.114]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC8343D3F for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:07:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linuxuser@finnovative.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.55.105]) by mail.finnovative.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 9 Mar 2005 16:07:52 -0800 Message-ID: <422F8FD7.50309@finnovative.net> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:07:51 -0800 From: Joaquin Menchaca User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <4218107A.8050508@finnovative.net> <20050220013059.5301ef59.metaridley@mchsi.com> In-Reply-To: <20050220013059.5301ef59.metaridley@mchsi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2005 00:07:52.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[33FEFBE0:01C52505] Subject: Re: Any thoughts on Graphical install UI? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 00:07:54 -0000 That makes a lot of sense actually. However, many of the installers have ncurses type of installs in addition to the nice smooth graphical install, and on top of that they even have a manual non-ncurses command line only install. :-) We can default it to text, but have an option to go graphical. It would be nice to attract more people to the platform and avoid being a niche within a niche. -- joaquin Dave Vollenweider wrote: > I'm against this idea. Why? Because some of us use lower-end machines > and having a graphical install ups the memory requirement for the > installation. Such installers are fine for desktop machines, but for > servers and networking machines, they just get in the way since that > much more RAM and processing power is needed for the installation. > > When I tried to install Red Hat 7.3 back in 2002, it required 32 MB of > RAM just to run the installer. A lot of this was because it was > graphical. FreeBSD's sysinstall, on the other hand, requires only 16 MB > (and other BSDs require even less) thanks to the fact that it's not > graphical. I don't want to see FreeBSD go in that direction. > > Then there's the issue of how to fit a graphical installer on floppies. > Some of us still have to use floppies for booting the installer (and > then getting the actual files for FreeBSD via FTP) for various reasons, > and having a GUI installer would make that more difficult. > > I do agree that FreeBSD could use an easier installation program, as > there are several hidden pitfalls in sysinstall, but I don't think a GUI > installer is the answer. An easier-to-understand curses-based installer > would be a better solution. > > Just my two cents on this issue. > > - Dave V. > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:22:18 -0800 > Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Many Linux flavors both commericial and free have attractive UIs for >>installation and package selection, and even to some degree >>partitioning and formatting of hard drives. >> >>Is there any thought of doing this for FreeBSD? Having an attractive >>UI, ala Fedora and/or gentoo would definately help attract more novice >> >>users to the FreeBSD world. >> >>Just a thought. Don't know if this was discussed before, as I'm a >>newbie. :-) >> >> -- jm >>_______________________________________________ >>freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>"freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"