From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun May 20 03:49:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DACEF1267 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 03:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-yb0-x22f.google.com (mail-yb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C59D6D01B for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 03:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: by mail-yb0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id e7-v6so132118ybn.9 for ; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:49:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Hy919QA3Z2B1x1lgiRAbP5ReCeZ3iId/sRZyzeUGNEw=; b=CB+z5XRudGm4tDFElS8xQ4hQE9bTD2VeYawDG0g1sdkSgN8S4YakDmXuIUZJGWxhOh 69Z8UhhxnjbqvzniWjfNFM3pMuL13Q0k5pQxvS5vHszAklCTCEy/d4bxDg/F1LpUIzbN Hvf/81r99kt2X907wgEpsvxfHhhzB4Zvi3F8Y= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Hy919QA3Z2B1x1lgiRAbP5ReCeZ3iId/sRZyzeUGNEw=; b=UPKOVChQWSgHc6AIZO0WRDUgPaL+Lbrfn4KB1rohGiFPSdRcKfwqx7LAw/cs5ygwbx UYd6RH2WufOwAeEz12T8QpstpYUPI4GdzSofjVz7Bs02KmhOaBR+g3VaO2NWNLXZEDzW MW94qkMb8azahx/xcL2IYigT8Mv7K569IsJj8cxuDk7Q/u/4CwVkEE1jeKaVNRX12YyI eRpCqMVEULbRh/hMUG2who8i6CBJ0H4SkQghmBCOo8ayw2Uo/R8A9ZuFh9I7Th7urRDR tf+TWJIELbhrijzdBcN3PTzyIHiRAmMKtnBbWoQ/u+qTn+m+P33aOsVTPJcudU0OV90j ZaBA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwcjD2/nWEa4C9DaADTdvYcO5A23rk0zX9BOLcawlT8vZdtsw8py txAI40AzLMpBAMsGLqSSVHsKin7CoQvQX0ewzWtzJg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZq5/ya4/rNc2NPLG+1fG7r2cTmCFhzYi3JbUn37y2U/rzKLwre1n0QsTKlslYTFEv/tpZeXGvfz37JmvivHe50= X-Received: by 2002:a25:5644:: with SMTP id k65-v6mr8471175ybb.479.1526788153733; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:49:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a25:c709:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 19 May 2018 20:48:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201805191729.w4JHTvOo032116@repo.freebsd.org> <201805191945.w4JJjMlk017155@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 20:48:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern To: Warner Losh Cc: Pedro Giffuni , Poul-Henning Kamp , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 03:49:15 -0000 On 19 May 2018 at 20:05, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >> >> >> On 19/05/2018 21:43, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:40 PM Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> In message >>>> >>>> , Warner Losh writes: >>>> >>>> >> > Log: >>>> >> > Restore the all rights reserved language. >>>> >>>> "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" >>>> copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost >>>> all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne >>>> Convention 60 years ago. >>> >>> >>> The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the middle >>> of the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4. >>> >>>> >>>> The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades >>>> ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this >>>> boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. >>> >>> >>> Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's useless >>> at this point, I don't believe we can remove it. >>> >>> For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a lawyer >>> ... >>> >>> I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding the >>> "All Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to mean previously >>> (or much at all) but that removing it was intended as having a meaning. In >>> sum, and while I didn't completely grasp the issue is not clear all lawyers >>> would agree on removing the line. >>> >>> For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done for new >>> code, starting here: >>> >>> >>> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/pref-license.html >> >> >> >> Looks like i missed one. I'll fix it. >> >> While updating documentation, the SPDX guys also point to an outdated >> version: >> >> https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-2-Clause-FreeBSD.html > > > Can you get this updated? > >> >> https://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-license.html > > > Not sure where this file comes from... Sending freebsd-license.xml Transmitting file data .done Committing transaction... Committed revision 51670. >> With the additional mistake that they added the Documentation Project >> disclaimer to the license: >> >> "The views and conclusions contained in the software and documentation >> are those of the authors and should not be interpreted as representing >> official policies, either expressed or implied, of the FreeBSD Project." > > > Can you get that fixed? You want me to remove the disclaimer as well? -- Eitan Adler