From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 11 23:04:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 415759EC; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 23:04:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8EFC1DFC; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 23:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0BN4mW8057447; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:04:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id s0BN4mQ3057444; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:04:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:04:48 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Mark Felder Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC5 Now Available In-Reply-To: <0AD1CEB5-3291-43F7-B41E-2517A9DDE114@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <20140109161818.GK64543@glenbarber.us> <20140110114102.692560fe@X220.alogt.com> <1389468757.19126.69510893.3B8876F8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <0AD1CEB5-3291-43F7-B41E-2517A9DDE114@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:04:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 23:04:50 -0000 On Sat, 11 Jan 2014, Mark Felder wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2014, at 14:58, Warren Block wrote: > >> On Sat, 11 Jan 2014, Mark Felder wrote: >> >>> FreeBSD's use of HAL for Xorg is a lazy emulation of how Linux does it. >>> The right way is to hook devd directly, which is what the DEVD option >>> does. Try it -- you'll be surprised how much more reliable it is. >> >> Or just disable X hotplug device detection with Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off". I have this off, and can still attach extra keyboards and mice and have them work. > > That's interesting. I've never been able to do that with AutoAddDevices being Off. Instead, it only accepts the inputs that were there when you start X and if they are disconnected for any reason you're kind of screwed... It will probably only work with USB devices. kbdmux handles the keyboards, and... devd handles the mice, I suppose. Hmm. It does not seem to matter which way AutoAddDevices is set, plugging in an additional mouse results in both being able to move the pointer. Note that I am using xfce and do not even have HAL installed.