Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:15:05 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Aud=E9oud?= <jadawin@FreeBSD.org> Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Rene Ladan <rene@FreeBSD.org>, John Marino <dragonflybsd@marino.st> Subject: Re: svn commit: r335281 - in head: . audio audio/gnump3d Message-ID: <20131202151505.GF27759@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20131202151646.GI71618@tuxaco.net> References: <529C5F05.6020706@marino.st> <20131202104324.GB71618@tuxaco.net> <529C689B.9050902@marino.st> <20131202131244.GC71618@tuxaco.net> <529C8C1F.7050802@marino.st> <20131202134921.GD71618@tuxaco.net> <529C91F2.6020004@marino.st> <20131202145224.GH71618@tuxaco.net> <529CA16C.2060000@marino.st> <20131202151646.GI71618@tuxaco.net>
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--m0vRWufqUC70IDnR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 04:16:46PM +0100, Philippe Aud=E9oud wrote: > On Mon, 02 Dec 2013, John Marino wrote: >=20 > > On 12/2/2013 15:52, Philippe Aud=E9oud wrote: > > > On Mon, 02 Dec 2013, John Marino wrote: > > >> > > >> You are misrepresenting me. I follow the rules, but they are crappy > > >> rules so I'm complaining about them. Rene did not break any rules t= hat > > >> I am aware of. (You conveniently did not show me where this "rule" = is > > >> documented, nor why you think port maintenance privilege extends past > > >> the expire deadline). > >=20 > > >=20 > > > 4. Respect existing maintainers if listed. > > >=20 > > > Many parts of FreeBSD are not "owned" in the sense that any specific > > > individual will jump up and yell if you commit a change to "their" ar= ea, > > > but it still pays to check first. One convention we use is to put a > > > maintainer line in the Makefile for any package or subtree which is > > > being actively maintained by one or more people; see > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/= policies.html > > > for documentation on this. Where sections of code have several > > > maintainers, commits to affected areas by one maintainer need to be > > > reviewed by at least one other maintainer. In cases where the > > > "maintainer-ship" of something is not clear, you can also look at the > > > repository logs for the file(s) in question and see if someone has be= en > > > working recently or predominantly in that area. > > >=20 > > > Other areas of FreeBSD fall under the control of someone who manages = an > > > overall category of FreeBSD evolution, such as internationalization or > > > networking. See http://www.FreeBSD.org/administration.html for more > > > information on this. > > >=20 > > > from : > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/= rules.html > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > 1. Clearly it does not address port deletion specifically. > > 2. I openly questioned whether or not the MAINTAINER line expired with > > the port. I believe it should. After the expiry date, it should be > > treated as if MAINTAINER=3Dports@freebsd.org (meaning anybody at all can > > delete it if they feel like it.) > > 3. This is the clause that needs updating. It gives too much power to > > the listed MAINTAINER. It could and should allow others to fix the port > > if it restores the port to how the maintainer intended. People are > > abusing this clause and the result is that ports that could be fixed > > correctly on the spot are not fixed in a timely fashion (sometimes > > delaying weeks or months or perhaps never getting fixed). > >=20 > > Some of this "power" needs to be clawed back. I will fully support any > > maintainer who is angry at another committer than "fixes" their port > > incorrectly though. I think the benefits of allowing others to fix > > ports-with-listed-maintainers outweighs the negatives by a lot. > >=20 >=20 > Sure but it has to be written. We are both complaining about this point, > maybe we can work together and suggest somes rules/reflexion to > portmgr@. >=20 > --=20 > Philippe Aud=E9oud Yes please :) --m0vRWufqUC70IDnR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlKco/kACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EzxsACglCULyD1hghh5gila4Bqs4KH+ Nx0AmwbxxD57XnGb5SBxdbhc+6xEPIDM =xT2E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m0vRWufqUC70IDnR--
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