From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Nov 11 12:32:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DBFA2B8B7; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DE47121C; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwUa1-000O39-K7; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:32:49 +0300 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:32:49 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Dag-Erling =?utf-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OpenSSH HPN Message-ID: <20151111123249.GC48728@zxy.spb.ru> References: <86io5a9ome.fsf@desk.des.no> <20151110175216.GN65715@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151110175216.GN65715@funkthat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:33:00 -0000 On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 09:52:16AM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote this message on Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:42 +0100: > > Therefore, I would like to remove the HPN patches from base and refer > > anyone who really needs them to the openssh-portable port, which has > > them as a default option. I would also like to remove the NONE cipher > > patch, which is also available in the port (off by default, just like in > > base). > > My vote is to remove the HPN patches. First, the NONE cipher made more > sense back when we didn't have AES-NI widely available, and you were > seriously limited by it's performance. Now we have both aes-gcm and > chacha-poly which it's performance should be more than acceptable for > today's uses (i.e. cipher performance is 2GB/sec+). > > Second, I did some testing recently due to a thread on -net, and I > found no significant (not run statistically though) difference in > performance between in HEAD ssh and OpenSSH 7.1p1. I started a wiki > page to talk about this: > https://wiki.freebsd.org/SSHPerf Hmm, I see in this page max speed 20MB/sec. This is too small. What is problem? With modern 40G NIC wanted speed about 20Gbit/s. 10Gbit/s at least.