From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 6 17:18:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD311106564A; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (wollman-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:ccb::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EF78FC13; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 17:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p76HI22o050724; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 13:18:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p76HI2eY050723; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 13:18:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 13:18:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <201108061718.p76HI2eY050723@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> To: nwhitehorn@freebsd.org X-Newsgroups: mit.lcs.mail.freebsd-current In-Reply-To: <4E3D55FD.7090803@freebsd.org> References: Organization: none X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:18:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:23:42 +0000 Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New installation script X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:18:05 -0000 In article <4E3D55FD.7090803@freebsd.org>, nwhitehorn@freebsd.org writes: >I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. Whenever you add a / >partition on a partitioning scheme that requires a boot partition (APM, >GPT on some platforms), the installer asks you if you want to add a boot >partition. The auto-partitioner does this automatically. It does not >reuse any existing boot partition for two reasons: >- It has no way to know the other boot partition was correctly set up >and so would need to reinitialize it. >- There is no guarantee that it is even related to FreeBSD. On APM >disks, we share a boot partition type with OS X and Linux. Having just been through this, I can only say that neither of these arguments apply when the boot partition exists only in the memory of the partition editor and was never on the (freshly initialized) disk. I was a bit taken aback when I deleted and recreated the / partition (since I didn't want the "everything in one partition" layout it defaulted to) and it wanted to create *another* boot partition. Another issue I had was that it was unclear which keymap I was expected to choose. I initially chose "traditional Unix workstation", which was unusable. (Never did find the control or escape key, which made vi particularly difficult to use.) The default selection in the keymap dialog ought to be "don't screw with it" rather than an option which is not obviously correct. Forcing users to set a system timezone is probably a good idea, too; I had not noticed that it never asked me for one until I ran the "date" command and found my system running in UTC. The new version of dialog feels cheesy compared to the old one. (Unrelated to the installer:) There's a lock order reversal the first time a new directory is created, and another one when the system is rebooted. -GAWollman