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Date:      Sun, 4 Jun 2017 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Colin Percival <cperciva@tarsnap.com>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, Ngie Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r318441 - in head/etc: . cron.d
Message-ID:  <201706041843.v54IhJWt008848@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqbgt2ic9tJx1x8jYJLBpB%2Bt4jRAvmqka_%2BzZQBLUU5bg@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Rodney W. Grimes <
> freebsd@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> 
> > [ Charset windows-1252 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > On 06/03/17 21:39, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > > Are we going to end up with /etc/rc.conf.d?
> > >
> > > We've had this for over 15 years -- ever since NetBSD rc.d system was
> > > imported.
> >
> > We have had it, but it ships empty, that is different than what is
> > going on with newsyslog/syslog/cron, we have had those too for
> > various amounts of time, but now we are not shipping them empty.
> >
> 
> Shipping empty is over rated. What's the point of having a feature we can
> use to make things less monolithic if we don't use that feature?

Shipped empty is extremly valuable, it is why we have /etc/defaults/rc.conf
and ship without an /etc/rc.conf.  It would be nice to have similiar
functionality for all of this.

The feature is there for the system administrators to use, not for
the developers to use to implement policies rather than methods.

-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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