From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 23 16:39:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FA7106568B for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@msys.ch) Received: from sleipnir.msys.ch (smtp.msys.ch [157.161.101.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DAE8FC13 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.msys.ch (smtp.msys.ch [157.161.101.10]) by sleipnir.msys.ch (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7NGcDrW012518 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:38:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.17.107] (gw.vnode.ch [62.12.170.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.msys.ch (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7NGcC0n027562 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:38:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <843B14C2-D6D0-4910-B1B4-C7A8CB37635D@msys.ch> From: Marc Balmer To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20090823182454.00006387@unknown> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:38:12 +0200 References: <6101e8c40908211917k69c82491w3cff00a527d14873@mail.gmail.com> <19e9a5dc0908212303j28a6913er604bfd06e7df81ec@mail.gmail.com> <2DC22872-96F5-4C0A-82E4-F9755A10E245@msys.ch> <20090822182923.000064e0@unknown> <20090823170849.00000fdb@unknown> <7306B4ED-D9AF-4946-9FCE-BD1CE7685AC2@msys.ch> <20090823182454.00006387@unknown> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.3.6 X-Spamd-Symbols: AWL Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Aur=E9lien_M=E9r=E9=22?= , Oliver Pinter , Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Common interface for sensors/health monitoring X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:39:36 -0000 Am 23.08.2009 um 18:24 schrieb Alexander Leidinger: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:13:42 +0200 Marc Balmer wrote: > > >> >> Am 23.08.2009 um 17:08 schrieb Alexander Leidinger: >> >>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:02:32 +0200 "Aur=E9lien M=E9r=E9" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm just afraid by reading your email that the situation doesn't >>>> seem to have evolved since the discussion regarding the SoC, maybe >>>> even more taboo, and that I'll have to keep writing my own >>>> software and drivers to get the data I want in the future if I >>>> want to get this data under FreeBSD.. Is it the case ? >>> >>> It is not "taboo", it is just that nobody wants to spend his spare >>> time >>> with something like this now. >>> >>> And yes, as far as I know you have to keep writting our own stuff. >>> But maybe we can set up a wiki page where people can share their >>> FreeBSD specific stuff. Someone just has to be willing to invest >>> some time to add stuff. I have a little script which adds 24 values >>> to ganglia, and it's extensible (4 lines for wach value), e.g.: >>> ---snip--- >>> metrics=3D"${metrics} HD3_Temp" >>> HD3_Temp_value=3D"$(smartctl -A ad3 |awk '/Temperature_Celsius/ >>> { print $10 }')" HD3_Temp_type=3D"uint8" >>> HD3_Temp_unit=3D"Celsius" >>> >>> metrics=3D"${metrics} logins" >>> logins_value=3D"$(who -q | grep users | cut -d ' ' -f 4)" >>> logins_type=3D"uint8" >>> logins_unit=3D"Users" >>> >>> metrics=3D"${metrics} SwapIn" >>> SwapIn_value=3D"$(sysctl vm.stats.vm.v_swapin | cut -d ' ' -f 2)" >>> SwapIn_type=3D"uint32" >>> SwapIn_unit=3D"Units" >>> ---snip--- >>> >>> I would add my script to such a wiki page, if some else is willing >>> to start such a page. >> >> >> such a script would indeed be much nicer than a well crafted >> framework for the job. >> > > Indeed... > >>> If someone not @FreeBSD.org wants to maintain such a page, feel >>> free to >>> register in the wiki and tell me (or another committer), I will >>> hand out >>> write permission then. >> >> I hope people spend their time on thinking what was bad with the >> sensor framework last time and improve on that, instead. > > Go and read in the archives about it, maybe you understand why > there's not much motivation to spend spare time on such a topic. Everyone should have the right to come back with a subject, if work is =20= put into it. Or is the stanza that once there has been a heated =20 discussion about a topic, there is no possibility to come back to it, =20= maybe making it better a seccond time? And no, I have no plans to do =20= so... I am just a bit astonished about the attitude...