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Date:      Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:58:59 +1100 (EST)
From:      Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Release Building and /etc/make.conf
Message-ID:  <20040121153615.O7322@gamplex.bde.org>
In-Reply-To: <200401201319.52943.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200401190738.i0J7ccF3020266@postoffice.e-easy.com.au> <20040121005140.D4640@gamplex.bde.org> <200401201319.52943.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, John Baldwin wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 January 2004 09:41 am, Bruce Evans wrote:
> > bsd.cpu.mk should rarely be edited, but /etc.make.conf is per-machine so
> > you can put anything you want in it.  However, defaulting to
> > -mcpu=pentiumpro is just a bug, so I edit it out of bsd.cpu.mk.  It
> > just micro-pessimizes for all CPUs that aren't pentium pros.  This is
> > almost harmless for i386's because no one uses them, and almost harmless
> > for P3's and maybe P4's because they share some bottlenecks with
> > pentiumpros, but Athlons handle naive i386 code better than pentiums so
> > many of the pentiumpro optimizations are pessimizations for athlons.
>
> The choice if ppro was Peter's suggestion.  Feel free to offer a better
> default CPU to tune for.

i386 (or equivalently, no special tuning) is the best default, at least
in non-FPU-intensive applications.  In my integer crunching application/
benchmark (searching a game tree), it even gives better results than
-mcpu=pentiumpro on a pentiumpro class machine (a 366MHz Celeron).
-mcpu=athlon-xp gives even better results.

All with -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-mcpu-athlon-xp        48.42 real        47.31 user         0.41 sys
                       51.22 real        50.10 user         0.30 sys
-mcpu=i386             51.98 real        50.18 user         0.34 sys
-mcpu=pentiumpro       56.38 real        55.26 user         0.34 sys
-mcpu=pentium2         56.24 real        55.25 user         0.36 sys
-mcpu=pentium3         56.59 real        55.25 user         0.40 sys
-mcpu=pentium4         58.52 real        56.96 user         0.36 sys
-mcpu=i486             79.17 real        77.69 user         0.32 sys
-mcpu=i586             74.80 real        73.07 user         0.48 sys

This is just one benchmark, chosen for its potential optimizability.
I only did non-exhaustive benchmarks for the makeworld benchmark.  I
removed the -mpentiumpro change when I saw the kernel size bloat that
it gave.

> > Note that CPUTYPE has worse bugs for i386's.  Setting it to a supported
> > CPU gives -march instead of -mcpu, so using it gives unportable binaries,
> > and bsd.cpu.mk provides no way to get the corresponding -mcpu settings.
> > OTOH, CPUTYPE for alphas gives only -mcpu.
>
> That is by design.  Note that on all non-i386 architectures such as alpha,
> etc. -mcpu means the same thing as -march.  The other architectures use
> -mtune to get the same effect as -mcpu on i386.

Doesn't make it any less of a bug.

[Context with same benchmark on an athlon-xp lost.]

Bruce



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