From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Jan 25 21:12:55 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562881FB71D for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 484pd21vQGz46rb; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:12:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id vSjYijX5HnCigvSjZiYVLL; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 14:12:51 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=cZisUULM c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=Jdjhy38mL1oA:10 a=VxmjJ2MpAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=pbV41el_XU-R8gImr00A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=7gXAzLPJhVmCkEl4_tsf:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from [IPv6:2605:8d80:404:d7ee:2c2a:d9c0:62f1:7c09] (unknown [72.143.230.11]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9A924B8; Sat, 25 Jan 2020 13:12:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 13:12:44 -0800 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <12527.1579983732@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <20200118222619.GD67053@eureka.lemis.com> <202001251941.00PJfuhE004732@slippy.cwsent.com> <12527.1579983732@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Porting FreeBSD to Z mainframes idea To: Poul-Henning Kamp CC: Warner Losh , "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , Shivank Garg , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org From: Cy Schubert Message-ID: <7CA80A6B-47C4-4B70-B590-01532A1D9DE4@cschubert.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfNa2pwwFqjMKLhgafPx6T03KUaMnexFP60Iwx0FdcNcPrsf3AbrZPjPhcMWyanV4H5cAW2mc7hCPC8ly71H2w9PRzlHAMZQe2yKFaw5oXAu1GuzjEgjZ nhNb+iz28FHLCGWumCe2vMu3Ke5LxS0kTBgd4DLPP3YgxQ/ls6VndgOs3vHofuguzzZsVxpDioOmkwnqMysf/CrE6VQIXu01TXnv2zMcLbmg2KgsGYSn0slP tq2CcNO0euCWxWgk9JGaS4je68cLXE0R8Cmg0eBa2DvzS/8MZ3kkxBSiJOwzZDewt8Dnlw3YRLQohna8ayQVMQ== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 484pd21vQGz46rb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cy.schubert@cschubert.com has no SPF policy when checking 64.59.134.12) smtp.mailfrom=cy.schubert@cschubert.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.66 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11,11.230.143.72.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[12.134.59.64.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[12.134.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.46)[ip: (-6.56), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-3.17), asn: 6327(-2.47), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 21:12:55 -0000 On January 25, 2020 12:22:12 PM PST, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >-------- >In message <202001251941=2E00PJfuhE004732@slippy=2Ecwsent=2Ecom>, Cy Schu= bert >writes: > >>How would you support vi on a 3270, a different editor maybe? > >I have run vi(1) on a 3278(-compatible) connected with SNA to an >Amdahl running UTS, but I have no idea how much magic were involved >for that to not kill the CPU=2E > >At the very least either the 3174 or the 3745 must have been involved=2E Hmm interesting=2E Probably 3174 firmware to make it behave less like a bl= ock half duplex terminal=2E=20 --=20 Pardon the typos and autocorrect, small keyboard in use=2E=20 Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://www=2EFreeBSD=2Eorg The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few=2E Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E