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Sat, 25 Jul 2020 02:30:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200724032840.GA61047@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200724043553.GA62650@admin.sibptus.ru> <838706788.121367025.1595568764100.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> <20200724055608.GA64228@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200724101611.GA49600@stargrave.org> <20200725052418.GA92589@admin.sibptus.ru> In-Reply-To: <20200725052418.GA92589@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 05:30:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux To: Victor Sudakov Cc: Sergey Matveev , FreeBSD Mailing List X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BDLQK57PMz4045 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=MDnjtWTj; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d29 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.76 / 15.00]; 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No > > difference is it UEFI or not. > http://www.stargrave.org/FreeBSD-installation.html > > ZFS root works. Boot Environments don't work under UEFI (at least > partially, or at least under bhyve's UEFI). I suggest a simple test to you. > > Create a BE named "test1" and activate it for the next boot only: > > bectl activate -t test1 > reboot > > After reboot you'll see that you are again in your default BE, not in > "test1". > Rather dishonest debating technique once you were proven wrong you moved the bar to say you were actually right. You said "does not work under UEFI" without qualification when you were proven wrong you changed it, a very uncommon and likely rarely used feature that is not part of the zfs standard. Proof that they were never part of sun/oracle's original zfs standard from the man page on bectl: HISTORY bectl is based on beadm(1) and was implemented as a project for the 2017 Summer of Code, along with libbe(3). In the future please use ,more honest debating techniques > > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org