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Date:      Tue, 15 Mar 2005 10:10:33 -0800
From:      Jeff Behl <jbehl@fastclick.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        Jung-uk Kim <jkim@niksun.com>
Subject:   Re: IPMI doesn't work...
Message-ID:  <42372519.5050602@fastclick.com>
In-Reply-To: <423723B5.7020906@elischer.org>
References:  <4235E6CC.7040909@santaba.com> <42364E75.8030205@elischer.org><42367D57.30009@santaba.com> <200503151232.44158.jkim@niksun.com> <423723B5.7020906@elischer.org>

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Julian Elischer wrote:

>
>
> Jung-uk Kim wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 15 March 2005 01:14 am, Jeff Behl wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Julian Elischer wrote:
>>>   
>>>
>>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by in band.  The IP address of the
>>>>> BMC is assigned via the bios and is different from what the OS
>>>>> later assigns.  With imiptool we can turn on/powercycle/monitor
>>>>> via the BMC assigned address up until the point where the kernel
>>>>> loads.  Once it does, the BMC no longer responds.  This doesn't
>>>>> happen with the two linux distros we've tried it on.  Wtih both,
>>>>> including SuSE, we can still query/control via the BMC using
>>>>> ipmitool.  It seems to be some sort of driver issue to me.  I
>>>>> find it confusing that the NIC is shared between the BMC and the
>>>>> OS, but I guess that's just how it's done.  Perhaps the bsd
>>>>> broadcomm driver is simply blocking this somehow...
>>>>>       
>>>>
>>>> you have to assign it the same address!
>>>>     
>>>
>>> that's not the way it's supposed to work, afaik.  it'd be silly to
>>> tie the BMC address and the OS assigned address together.  you give
>>> the BMC an ip address via a little program that comes from IBM and
>>> this address is independent of the ip address that whatever os you
>>> use on the system assigns to the nic.  the redbook that Jung-uk
>>> sent a link for shows this process if you're interested.
>>>   
>>
>>
>> I believe you are correct.  If you have the same IP address, the 
>> packet reaches host OS and (I think) it must be discarded by OS.  
>> IPMI spec. is very verbose but I found very simple explanation here:
>>  
>>
>
> I simply have a firewall rule throwing those away.
> We have a Class -C full of those machines and if I had to duplicate 
> the addresses I'd need 2.
>

we've been assigning private addresses to the BMCs making them only 
reachable via a local admin host...



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