From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 21:23:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0408106564A for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A998FC1E for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c8so3283937wra.27 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:23:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=OjbpOlGDJ0fpCTPatZRGq44HLyGugnSNSRqQtAWdG3M=; b=uni9V7T+nB4b6F+ebIwmQwiGIuHIx/SWjfH8Abpcj5PzqIllToCcIBX4WgjJApUPjT q8sHqkye5iTbxFZj1zFTUSG5Le64hnHjKDtOiKvzp+JjNfGoquuUoBim/ckerD1tS83m 79bzX9r5iL+OVIiLZ2JgUZ4MkMWyKdKp5Im9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LuxCNMEROQCGFNyFeqv9HFh9lfTXm1ZCXeiTm1AJNE9QF/veuOs32BT+04pXvd52Vy Mz0AUcJRK+bLQ5UeBYI2TT0ltSiG5WPmKcH3fbnuzZ/ryidsEeAYu/wzUdUOkT775CEW XhRbyNUk9H7ie2q6qTUBp4uvPR1dTZEki3DGg= Received: by 10.90.73.17 with SMTP id v17mr6399034aga.7.1217193826500; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.12.12 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5f67a8c40807271423t3dc1e89bn7295b9af9fa0eda5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:23:46 -0400 From: "Zaphod Beeblebrox" To: frank@exit.com In-Reply-To: <1217120187.37762.7.camel@jill.exit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <200807251802.23984.lists@jnielsen.net> <1217120187.37762.7.camel@jill.exit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, John Nielsen , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000 On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Frank Mayhar wrote: > After reading all the replies I'm actually taking your suggestion and > going with Fujitsu, specifically the E8420. I'm getting the NVidia > option and I'll be running in i386 mode until FreeBSD can handle the > nvidia requirements for amd64 mode. Atheros wireless, WSXGA+ option and > 2GB upgradable to 4. I'll keep my fingers crossed with regard to > working suspend/resume but again I'm not holding my breath. They claim > that with the 8-cell main and 6-cell modular battery it has a 5:30 > runtime; we'll see. Having had several fujitsu's before the current run of Dell laptops, I always found them better than average for FreeBSD support. Even (last one I had) suspending to RAM. The Dells I've currently been buying are very high end models and my impression of Dell is that their cheap models are not worth bothering with, their middle of the price range models are mostly acceptable with some lemons and their high end systems are very well done. That said, an OS-level suspend-to-disk would be an awesome summer-of-code project. I was thinking that beyond swapping everything out (probably easy enough) and providing a clue to a newly booted OS that the processes had to be reactiveated, we'd need a method of remembering what file handles were connected to so that they could be "reopened" (in this, I envision some type of text string... maybe a URI/URL). As a bonus, this would give us process migration between systems, too (assuming the URI were portable between self same systems --- which isn't horribly hard with nfs mounts and whatnot).