From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 1 11:48:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50176106566B for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:48:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBC28FC23 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A7C3A.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.124.58]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m21BmI1O011683 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:48:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m21BpuUT018405 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:51:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m21Bpp9u058968 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:51:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200803011151.m21Bpp9u058968@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-stable In-reply-to: <47C89B18.8010803@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <1204151575.84335.3.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <1204310983.47c853c70577d@imp.free.fr> <47C89B18.8010803@infracaninophile.co.uk> Comments: In-reply-to Matthew Seaman message dated "Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:54:00 +0000." Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:51:51 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE Available X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:48:22 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > gregoryd.freebsd@free.fr wrote: > > >> On behalf of the FreeBSD Project thanks for your interest in FreeBSD. > >> We hope you enjoy the new release. > > > > I've just spent the whole morning installing it on my office desktop. > > > > It was an awful experience: installing packages from the three CDs kept making > > me switch from one CD to the other then to the previous one before the next one > > again... > > All in all about twenty-times !!! (sometimes just for ONE package, for Christ's > > sake !) > > It was particularly annoying, especially with those Linux guys around sneering > > when comparing it to their smooth install. > > People in the know, and those with reasonable network bandwidth, generally > use either the 'boot only' or just the 'disk 1' CDs to install a pretty > minimal system, and then install packages, run cvsup, use freebsd updates > etc. from the net. It's a whole lot smoother than juggling CDs. > > Cheers, > > Matthew [ A shame about the package disc jockey effect, & if anyone has time to fix it, great, but meantime ... ] Some of those facing a big package install sequence won't have net access (desert island effect : security firewall locked tight / high coms cost etc ) .. solution for them : Minimal install as Matthew suggested, then load all cdroms on hard disc, all packages in one directory, then run sysinstall or pkg_install from multi user base. Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail just Ascii plain text. HTML & Base64 is spam.