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Date:      Wed, 10 Nov 1999 08:21:01 -0800
From:      "John Purser" <johnmpurser@home.com>
To:        "'Greg Lehey'" <grog@lemis.com>, "'Sean Michael Whipkey'" <highway@cstone.net>, <eng@cstone.net>, <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: FreeBSD Quotation
Message-ID:  <000b01bf2b97$95137680$40390918@home>
In-Reply-To: <19991110105504.45340@mojave.sitaranetworks.com>

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Lehey
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 7:55 AM
> To: johnmpurser@home.com; Sean Michael Whipkey; eng@cstone.net;
> freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Quotation
>
>
> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
>
> On Wednesday, 10 November 1999 at  7:09:09 -0800, John Purser wrote:
> > On  Tuesday, November 09, 1999 10:08 AM, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tuesday,  9 November 1999 at 12:51:17 -0500, Sean
> Michael Whipkey wrote:
> >>> Begin quote:
> >>> CBSMW: In your current company, Encanto, you don't use Microsoft's
> >>> software. You're using a Linux-like software, right?
> >>>
> >>> Frankenberg: We are using an open-source software
> product; it's Free
> >>> BSD, as opposed to Linux. Free BSD is a particular flavor
> of the Unix
> >>> operating system. It does an exceptionally good job. The operating
> >>> system is distributed for free. Those that write
> enhancements to it are
> >>> required to make those available to everyone. This has
> resulted in a
> >>> significant amount of innovations and new capabilities.
> >>>
> >>> From:
> >>>
> >>
> http://cbs.marketwatch.com/archive/19991108/news/current/soapb
ox.htx?source=blq/yhoo&dist=yhoo
>>>
>>> (Courtesy of /.)
>>>
>>> I'm not even going to go into how annoying that question sounds,
>>> though..."Linux-like" indeed.
>>
>> That's not the annoying part.  In the overall scheme of things,
>> FreeBSD *is* quite Linux-like.  But you are not required to make the
>> enhancements available to everybody.  That the big difference that he
>> appears not to understand.
>
> So, do we have anyone who wants to contact CBS and offer to walk them
> through FreeBSD's place in the Open Source universe or do we just sit and
> complain about how "They" got it wrong again?

It's not as simple as that.  I don't believe this one was CBS'
mistake, I thin that the quote was correct.  You're right, somebody
should take it up with the originator of the statement (the president
of Encanto IIRC), but I don't expect it to change much.  It's unlikely
that he and CBS will agree to change the report.

Greg
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I agree that we won't be able to amend or correct the article.  What I'm
proposing is that someone who knows what the hell they're talking about
(!=me) could contact the author (or his/her editor), let him know that there
were some misleading and/or factually incorrect statements, and offer
themselves as a resource, either for a follow up article on FreeBSD or as
background on the BSD - FreeNix community.  I see this as a way to alert the
writer/editor that there were some accuracy issues in the article, and to
encourage them to contact someone familiar with FreeBSD when the topic comes
up again.

I know this one act won't amount to much, but the practice could over time
do a lot to increase our visibility and help get "our truth" out there.

Just a suggestion and one I'm poorly situated to help with.  But I've seen a
lot of mail on these lists that mentioned an article in the first letter and
then had dozens on replies pointing out weaknesses in the article with very
few that mentioned any corrective action taken.  This seems to me to be an
excellent opportunity for Advocacy to tie another thread to an opinion
maker.

John Purser

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