From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 6 20:22:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F037516A400 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Stephen.Clark@seclark.us) Received: from smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout07-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58A2A43D7F for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:22:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Stephen.Clark@seclark.us) Received: (qmail 11923 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2006 20:22:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.144.77.138) by smtpout07-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.233) with ESMTP; 06 Apr 2006 20:22:24 -0000 Message-ID: <4435787E.70202@seclark.us> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:22:22 -0400 From: Stephen Clark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22smp i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010110 Netscape6/6.5 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <20060405200341.GD14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405200727.GA28371@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060405201500.GE14126@math.jussieu.fr> <20060405211154.GA30089@soaustin.net> <44350FDF.1060206@gmx.de> <443570EE.6080703@seclark.us> <443574CD.2020405@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <443574CD.2020405@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Alexey Karagodov , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disappointed X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Stephen.Clark@seclark.us List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:22:36 -0000 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >Stephen Clark wrote: > > >>[LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >> >> >> >>>Alexey Karagodov wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>hi. >>>>i think, this unstablity happaning just because developers trying to >>>>make >>>>two systems at one time, one is 6.0 and another 7.0 current and they >>>>supporting old version, lower then 6.0 >>>>i want to ask developers, why you developing new system, 7.0, if you >>>>don't >>>>finish old, 6.0 ?! >>>>finish 6.0, make it work, and upgrade it to 7.0 and to 8.0 and to 9.0 >>>>and so >>>>on ... >>>>what so new and revolutionary in 7.0 in comparison with 6.0 ?! >>>>to use your system i must be a DEVELOPER, but i don't have so much >>>>time! i >>>>don't want to develope! i want to use, i want to help you with some >>>>advise ( >>>>e.g. what feature to add, what feature to change etc), i can and i >>>>want to >>>>share some of my hardware to feet your needs, make a mirror, make a test >>>>server/workstation/notebook/PDA etc. i'm not an freebsd developer. >>>>i'm just >>>>admin and a user. >>>>your system is most greatest i ever seen. another wonderful system is >>>>SOLARIS. >>>>but your's is so unstable ... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>All this is described in many places. It all comes down to this: if you >>>don't want to be a developer, JUST USE THE RELEASE BRANCH. That means >>>Releng_6_0 for now. >>> >>>Stable only means compatible to previous versions of the same branch. >>>Not that the system is stable. >>> >>> >>> >>Who in their right mind would think that "stable" actually means >>"stable"!!! >> >> > >It does mean that the API is stable. > /\ > || > >So that you can use a driver written for 6.0 on any 6.x build. And that >you can run software compiled for 6.0 on all following versions of the >6.x branch without a compatibility layer. > > > Then maybe it should be called api-stable!!