From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 14 14:07:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5047816A4CE for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:07:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from freedombi.com (epicprofiles.com [207.179.98.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58CD43D1D for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:07:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from charles@idealso.com) Received: by freedombi.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADC0D72831; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freedombi.com (bugs.idealso.com [192.168.10.108]) by freedombi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EFC4A72486; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24.11.146.21 (SquirrelMail authenticated user charles) by freedombi.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <32943.24.11.146.21.1089814044.squirrel@freedombi.com> In-Reply-To: <1089745444.7465.22.camel@nova.sequestor.lan> References: <1089745444.7465.22.camel@nova.sequestor.lan> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles Ulrich" To: "S. Anthony Sequeira" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on freedombi.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.7 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 cc: FreeBSD List Subject: Re: Fairly regular crash with usb disk backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:07:28 -0000 S. Anthony Sequeira said: > 4 times out of 5 (approximately) all goes well. The 5th time it hard > crashes the system. > > It's a bit annoying, but I can live with it. However, I'm sure someone > would like details of the problem. I am also a bit worried about the > state of my disk volumes after the crash. > > There is absolutely nothing in /var/log/messages or redirected stdin/err > for the job. > > What, if anything, should I do so as I can provide debugging material if > required? I believe I have a similar situation. My main server at home ran a number of different operating systems in the past with no stability issues until I installed FreeBSD 4.10. After that, it would reboot with no provocation or explanation approximately once a day. Uptime varied between 5 minutes and 2 days. Thinking that I perhaps had a dodgy motherboard, I replaced it and all was well for about 4 days. It rebooted again this morning with explanation. A closer look at the logs revealed that my el-cheapo USB 2.0 card freaked out an hour before reboot on two occasions, so if the machine reboots again I'm going to try yanking out the USB card since I'm not really using it at the moment. That may not be an option for you since you use USB to back your system up, but maybe we can get a developer to help us find a fix or workaround. Charles Ulrich