From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 14 03:32:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68D51065679; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sweetnavelorange@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f208.google.com (mail-ew0-f208.google.com [209.85.219.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0888C8FC1A; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:32:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy4 with SMTP id 4so2743200ewy.36 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:32:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EZ3NCzq1UOHufsoODoGnYKJ4oi0VqZT6OhU/xJfyyZU=; b=HiDBYvxQT8ZH6e2r0PqLsKl1cyEmnyhvy2ktX8Mt3wJ3BZ5Jio+4VTBDO8bxouPeja +1/rAYtWWf6wnChX88oaK/dwm3nQXE6GtzjsdrPKo86/e4NL7LA1R4TjOHY51QIocEVk qFJPWiCxYmErVjA5NG3TnOrAQba5KrXcWzElY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=iU+M13nWqvSpG1cvP9jLiaU/Zh73eUnmjI8F43kMWBdUR4lOLaoWHeLx5bOEoVE3JJ NsbuKOZWcqDcAv8E+gx2+0Rp8TNhbHgn6s1lS7GS5MH+SBQxaJUf4lORn3dxt0ReLGYZ IVwTlVMloCmJ46LaiERzwA4snmH8CSXlKnB24= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.7 with SMTP id z7mr1528577wee.19.1252899130896; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:32:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200909091631.01446.hselasky@c2i.net> <200909100911.10237.hselasky@c2i.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:32:10 +1200 Message-ID: From: James Butler To: Randi Harper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List , Hans Petter Selasky Subject: Re: Fwd: Can't boot 8.0-BETA4 from USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:32:12 -0000 2009/9/11 Randi Harper : > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM, James Butler > wrote: >> >> 2009/9/11 Randi Harper : >> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM, James Butler >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> 2009/9/10 Hans Petter Selasky : >> >> > On Thursday 10 September 2009 06:37:13 James Butler wrote: >> >> >> Is there anything else worth trying? >> >> > >> >> > Another brand of memory sticks? >> >> >> >> I have only the three different brands that I tried (Toshiba and two >> >> different no-names). Is there really nothing like an adjustable delay >> >> at boot? Perhaps it's time to spend NZD$30 on a CF card and IDE >> >> adapter, but that will be of limited use for troubleshooting or >> >> installation. >> >> >> >> -James >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> > I've been asking around about an option to delay before mounting root as >> > well. I don't know of anything off the top of my head, but it sounds to >> > me >> > like a bug (or at least a reasonable feature request). Send a PR? >> >> I probably will now, I just wanted to exhaust the existing options. It >> seems to me that a "wait for the configured root device to appear" >> timeout could be arbitrarily long (eg. 10+ secs) by default without >> adversely affecting the normal use case, but I don't claim to know how >> the boot process works. >> >> > Have you only tried this on the one computer? It seems suspicious that >> > all >> > the cards are having this problem when I've only heard of two cases of >> > USB >> > flash-slowness causing problems so far. I'm curious to see if you have >> > the >> > same problem using that flash disk with a different computer. >> >> I think I used the same drive to test-install 8.0-BETA1 on my old >> Thinkpad X31, which seemed to work OK. This Asus motherboard is a but >> useless in other ways; still, 7.2 runs fine. >> >> -James >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > To avoid adversely affecting the normal use case, a tunable could specify > the option of having the mount wait until the device appears, or possibly > for how long to delay the mount. This really isn't my area of expertise, > though, so take what I say with a grain of salt. > > Not sure if you've seen these, but this is a problem other people are > reporting as well: > > Relevant but not enlightening: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-May/007457.html > Slightly more helpful: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-August/010562.html > > Not all that relevant, but interesting anyways: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-July/009912.html > Ha - I didn't find anything when I searched the lists, must've been what my wife calls a "boy look". FYI: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=138798 Thanks, -James