From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Wed Sep 26 15:33:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136C010AFF0F for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bengt.ahlgren@ri.se) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CD282837 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bengt.ahlgren@ri.se) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 68D7510AFF0C; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5728410AFF0B for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bengt.ahlgren@ri.se) Received: from smtp-out10.electric.net (smtp-out10.electric.net [185.38.180.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E455082831 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bengt.ahlgren@ri.se) Received: from 1g59vW-000lYv-UE by out10a.electric.net with emc1-ok (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1g59vW-000laZ-V8 for x11@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 06:32:26 -0700 Received: by emcmailer; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 06:32:26 -0700 Received: from [194.218.146.197] (helo=sp-mail-3.sp.se) by out10a.electric.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1g59vW-000lYv-UE for x11@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 06:32:26 -0700 Received: from P142s.sics.se (10.116.0.226) by sp-mail-3.sp.se (10.100.0.163) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1466.3; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:32:25 +0200 Received: from P142s.sics.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by P142s.sics.se (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w8QDWLNF004724 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:32:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bengt.ahlgren@ri.se) Received: (from bengta@localhost) by P142s.sics.se (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w8QDWLuw004723; Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:32:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bengt.ahlgren@ri.se) X-Authentication-Warning: P142s.sics.se: bengta set sender to bengt.ahlgren@ri.se using -f From: Bengt Ahlgren To: Subject: Where are framebuffers/visuals created? User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (berkeley-unix) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:32:21 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [10.116.0.226] X-ClientProxiedBy: sp-mail-1.sp.se (10.100.0.161) To sp-mail-3.sp.se (10.100.0.163) X-Outbound-IP: 194.218.146.197 X-Env-From: bengt.ahlgren@ri.se X-Proto: esmtps X-Revdns: X-HELO: sp-mail-3.sp.se X-TLS: TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256:128 X-Authenticated_ID: X-PolicySMART: 14510320 X-Virus-Status: Scanned by VirusSMART (c) X-Virus-Status: Scanned by VirusSMART (s) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 15:33:08 -0000 I'd like to try to debug and find the cause of this issue with Kwin, but I don't know where in the graphics stack to start digging: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/2018-April/027704.html In short, after an update of Mesa, Kwin complained about not finding the appropriate framebuffer, and refused doing compositing with opengl. So, my question is: where in the graphics stack are the framebuffers/visuals created? Bengt