Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:30:45 -0400 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unable to boot latest 14-stable Message-ID: <68eae1cc-178c-420a-b07c-7806dd3a01d0@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <ZSZotIDLHZE1SzwL@int21h> References: <ZSXPnTXAdSJYrBDX@int21h> <841CA663-55E0-4EAD-B700-66DC884B50FA@yahoo.com> <ZSZotIDLHZE1SzwL@int21h>
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On 10/11/2023 05:19, void wrote:
> Do you think the following might allow the system to boot:
>
> 1. get 14-stable beta5 and on another freebsd box, mount its msdos
> partition
> with mdconfig -f
>
> 2. unplug the usb3 disk from the rpi, plug it into the freebsd box, do
> the same as [1]
>
> 3. copy the contents of [1] into [2]
>
> I'm worried the process might clobber something GELI needs though,
> rendering the zpool/disk
> permanently inaccessible.
Get access to the installed partition (mount it on something else, etc.)
and look in here:
[karl@NewFS ~]$ ls -al /boot/*efi*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 113664 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/boot1.efi
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 819200 Aug 10 2022 /boot/boot1.efifat
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1525 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/efi.4th
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 109568 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/gptboot.efi
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 819200 Aug 10 2022 /boot/gptboot.efifat
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 907264 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/loader.efi
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 13653 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/loader.help.efi
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 820224 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/loader_4th.efi
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 907264 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/loader_lua.efi
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 761344 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/loader_simp.efi
The file you want is /boot/loader.efi (which is a hard link to
loader_lua.efi) - that goes in the EFI partition on the boot device.
Note this:
[root@NewFS /home/karl]# file /boot/loader_lua.efi
/boot/loader_lua.efi: PE32+ executable (EFI application) x86-64, for MS
Windows
For ARM it will obviously not be "x86-64", but you will note that while
this is on the FreeBSD filesystem it is NOT a FreeBSD executable -- it
is an EFI executable, which is what needs to be there, and it was
created when the kernel and running environment was and thus, assuming
that's the environment that did the "zpool upgrade", has the correct
bits in it to be able to handle it.
Note that you cannot use the x86 loader on an ARM box; you need this
from the same architecture device. You already have it if the device
has root on an external disk (assuming that is the environment that did
the zpool upgrade) so doing it off that disk should work. This is what
an x86 EFI partition looks like:
[root@NewFS /home/karl]# ls -alR /mnt
total 33
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Dec 31 1979 .
drwxr-xr-x 37 root wheel 44 Jun 21 12:56 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 EFI
/mnt/EFI:
total 24
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 .
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Dec 31 1979 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 BOOT
/mnt/EFI/BOOT:
total 2728
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 .
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 893952 Nov 10 2022 BOOTX64.EFI
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 489984 Oct 9 2022 OLDBOOTX64.EFI
It will NOT be called BOOTX64.EFI but it WILL be in that partition under
EFI/BOOT; whatever the name is, that's what you copy the loader_lua.efi
to. Note that mine is currently "old" but still fine because I've
upgraded under a minor version (which didn't change the zpool format);
this box is 13.x and when it goes to 14 I will have to update all the
EFI partitions (that's a mirror, so there are two) or it won't boot once
the pools are upgraded.
That's what the EFI system will look for and attempt to load and execute.
I have been bit by this in the land before EFI time with "legacy"
bootcode (some years ago) as the upgrade procedure does not modify the
bootcode. You're "safe" doing that PROVIDED you do not do a "zpool
upgrade"; if you DO, and haven't fixed the bootcode first, you're
screwed as you had happen.
--
Karl Denninger
karl@denninger.net
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/11/2023 05:19, void wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:ZSZotIDLHZE1SzwL@int21h">Do you
think the following might allow the system to boot:
<br>
<br>
1. get 14-stable beta5 and on another freebsd box, mount its msdos
partition
<br>
with mdconfig -f
<br>
<br>
2. unplug the usb3 disk from the rpi, plug it into the freebsd
box, do the same as [1]
<br>
<br>
3. copy the contents of [1] into [2]
<br>
<br>
I'm worried the process might clobber something GELI needs though,
rendering the zpool/disk
<br>
permanently inaccessible.
<br>
</blockquote>
<p>Get access to the installed partition (mount it on something
else, etc.) and look in here:</p>
<p>[karl@NewFS ~]$ ls -al /boot/*efi*<br>
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 113664 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/boot1.efi<br>
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 819200 Aug 10 2022 /boot/boot1.efifat<br>
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1525 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/efi.4th<br>
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 109568 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/gptboot.efi<br>
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 819200 Aug 10 2022
/boot/gptboot.efifat<br>
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 907264 Jun 21 12:53 /boot/loader.efi<br>
-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 13653 Jun 21 12:53
/boot/loader.help.efi<br>
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 820224 Jun 21 12:53
/boot/loader_4th.efi<br>
-r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 907264 Jun 21 12:53
/boot/loader_lua.efi<br>
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 761344 Jun 21 12:53
/boot/loader_simp.efi<br>
</p>
<p>The file you want is /boot/loader.efi (which is a hard link to
loader_lua.efi) - that goes in the EFI partition on the boot
device. Note this:</p>
<p>[root@NewFS /home/karl]# file /boot/loader_lua.efi<br>
/boot/loader_lua.efi: PE32+ executable (EFI application) x86-64,
for MS Windows<br>
</p>
<p>For ARM it will obviously not be "x86-64", but you will note that
while this is on the FreeBSD filesystem it is NOT a FreeBSD
executable -- it is an EFI executable, which is what needs to be
there, and it was created when the kernel and running environment
was and thus, assuming that's the environment that did the "zpool
upgrade", has the correct bits in it to be able to handle it.</p>
<p>Note that you cannot use the x86 loader on an ARM box; you need
this from the same architecture device. You already have it if
the device has root on an external disk (assuming that is the
environment that did the zpool upgrade) so doing it off that disk
should work. This is what an x86 EFI partition looks like:</p>
<p>[root@NewFS /home/karl]# ls -alR /mnt<br>
total 33<br>
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Dec 31 1979 .<br>
drwxr-xr-x 37 root wheel 44 Jun 21 12:56 ..<br>
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 EFI<br>
<br>
/mnt/EFI:<br>
total 24<br>
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 .<br>
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Dec 31 1979 ..<br>
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 BOOT<br>
<br>
/mnt/EFI/BOOT:<br>
total 2728<br>
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 .<br>
drwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4096 Feb 20 2021 ..<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 893952 Nov 10 2022 BOOTX64.EFI<br>
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 489984 Oct 9 2022 OLDBOOTX64.EFI<br>
</p>
<p>It will NOT be called BOOTX64.EFI but it WILL be in that
partition under EFI/BOOT; whatever the name is, that's what you
copy the loader_lua.efi to. Note that mine is currently "old" but
still fine because I've upgraded under a minor version (which
didn't change the zpool format); this box is 13.x and when it goes
to 14 I will have to update all the EFI partitions (that's a
mirror, so there are two) or it won't boot once the pools are
upgraded.</p>
<p>That's what the EFI system will look for and attempt to load and
execute.<br>
</p>
<p>I have been bit by this in the land before EFI time with "legacy"
bootcode (some years ago) as the upgrade procedure does not modify
the bootcode. You're "safe" doing that PROVIDED you do not do a
"zpool upgrade"; if you DO, and haven't fixed the bootcode first,
you're screwed as you had happen.<br>
</p>
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Karl Denninger<br>
<a href="mailto:karl@denninger.net" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">karl@denninger.net</a><br>
<i>The Market Ticker</i><br>
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