From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Aug 30 12:44: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B492237B422 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 273FF1C66; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:44:01 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build tools as separate distribution Message-ID: <20000830154401.R33771@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <87599.967663970@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <87599.967663970@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 12:32:50PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 12:32:50PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Are these the same plans from 5 years ago? > > Your wise-ass comments aside, I think that there are a number of > things which are driving us to NOT just hack-hack-hack on sysinstall > some more and attempt to accomplish by behind-the-scenes trickery what > should be accomplished by a proper mechanism, I.E. having all the > fundamental building blocks be proper packages and "bin" simply a > meta-package which depends on those packages which comprise what we > currently consider "the bindist." > > Since it's also far easier to be a back-seat driver on issues like > this than to actually assist the process, I would welcome your coding > contributions to making this happen rather than just suggesting that > we tangle our existing mess even further. Well, considering everytime everyone has an idea for sysinstall, the shouts of "Wait! Something new and better that already addresses that is already in the works!" ring loudly from Concord. Someone offered to actually look into doing the work (or I think even mentioned that he did the work) previously in the thread, so I was trying to determine how much further that should be persued. I, for one, am about to roll out lots of machines that are carbon copies of themselves and would like a stripped down install option. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org PS. Making pkg_* style packages using the existing bsd.prog.mk would be really, really easy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message