From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Oct 12 19:12:08 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FB910C77D6 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EF487191A for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:11:58 +0000 Authentication-Results: out.migadu.com; auth=pass (plain) Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 6C09D512-36A3-4285-9B54-87CF6DD0A4A7.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:11:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 22:11:56 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: Good motherboard for Ryzen (first-gen) To: Eric van Gyzen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1539371516.5420.0@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: References: <205656c3-52a5-a75f-c352-8bf923b47b1f@vangyzen.net> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=0KouCfhWhs7XBGME6p6ZoEjkvN/C0d8hlK7dx+H/yJg=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=RwFZK5PvWfRUjsnEYQraLhbSPauQs8Rqlaw1iVpeZxI/dQsNjvtpLuyOtgoIs9jq8E8AJNxgQm+vdF0TcVBoACfnCBwxbSI9At/yJet4usUMT2wedh+81V1fWDpr9Y/ql4mvlsM2ExYcwW6CEwez7f0hZWTV9p2rdUsxzaT4DWA= X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:12:08 -0000 On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:40 PM, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > On 9/21/18 9:53 PM, Eric van Gyzen wrote: >> I would like to build a Ryzen desktop. Can anyone recommend a good >> motherboard? >> >> I'm planning on a first-gen, because the second-gen has similar >> stability problems as the first-gen had, and AMD hasn't released >> errata for the second-gen yet (as far as I know...I would love to >> be wrong). >> >> I would like to be a cool kid with a Threadripper, but I can't >> justify the cost, so I'm thinking maybe a Ryzen 7 with /only/ 8 >> cores. :) >> >> Ideally, I want an Intel NIC, ECC memory support, and a 3-year >> warranty. > > Thanks for all the responses. They were very helpful. Here is what > I ended up building: > > Mobo: ASUS Prime X470-Pro > CPU: Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core > RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2 x 16GB DDR4-2666 PC4-21300 C16 > Video: ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 6GB > Disk: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB TLC NAND M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 > PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX > Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Universal CPU Cooler > > It's running FreeBSD head. BIOS version is 4018 (2018-07-12). So > far, it has been perfectly stable. No crashes, no lockups. It has > been my work-from-home desktop for just over a week now. I'm > overclocking the memory a little, but nothing else. The NIC works. > The sound works, though I've only tested the rear analog output. The > video card works with the nvidia-driver, currently 390.87. It's > driving two 2560x1440 monitors over HDMI. > > The only problem so far: I can't get NUMA enabled. I've set Memory > Interleave to "off", but the BIOS still doesn't generate an ACPI SRAT > table. I'm still working on this. You won't ever get NUMA enabled. Because Ryzen 7 2700X is not a NUMA processor! :) Only Threadripper and EPYC are. Desktop Ryzen has a "slightly NUMA-like" thing going on, it's recognized as 'cache groups' in the line: FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 cache groups x 4 core(s) x 2 hardware threads But it's not actual NUMA.