From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 26 21:15:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71B216A4CF for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:15:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail1.speakeasy.net (mail1.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D8343D5F for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:15:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (qmail 862 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2004 21:15:35 -0000 Received: from dsl027-160-063.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) encrypted SMTP for ; 26 Oct 2004 21:15:34 -0000 Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (zion.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.7]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9QLFVjm009545; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:15:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from zion.baldwin.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zion.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9QLFV8h015272; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:15:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john@zion.baldwin.cx) Received: by zion.baldwin.cx (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9QLFV5k015271; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:15:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from john) From: John Baldwin To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:04:43 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <4175B591.4090407@elischer.org> <200410211557.23246.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20041023010547.GC20513@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20041023010547.GC20513@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410261404.15282.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on server.baldwin.cx cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/i386/net htonl.S ntohl.S X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:15:35 -0000 On Friday 22 October 2004 09:05 pm, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 03:57:23PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > I waded though many arch@ archives but couldn't find where I had > > brought this issue up. I did find one instance where it was discussed > > prior to the SMPng commit back in April/May 2000 (old, yes) where cp@ > > wanted to drop 386 and 486 support for 5, and the ideas there were to > > allow for separate kernels. At this point, I guess I don't care/have > > enough time to burn on this. I would think you of all people would > > care about sticking to previously agreed to decisions though. > > I'm trying to. The problem is we don't seem to have a consensis on what > the "previously agreed to decision" was. And we didn't formally document > it. As best as I can tell, the only discussions in the public lists centered on the kernel and not really userland. The closest thing to mentioning userland is that at the time the discussions always assumed that only a different kernel would be needed for 80386 support, but that doesn't directly address userland, at best it weakly implies that the userland would work on both. However, as I said earlier, at this point I no longer care what happens in RELENG_5 on this topic. I would be fine with dropping 80386 for 5.4 personally. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/