From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 25 20:17:20 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490BD16A41F for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:17:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rutger.bevaart@illian.net) Received: from darwin.illian.net (darwin.illian.net [80.69.74.160]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA90843D5C for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:17:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rutger.bevaart@illian.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.illian.net [127.0.0.1]) by darwin.illian.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFFF456C2; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:17:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from darwin.illian.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (darwin.illian.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 57851-02; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:17:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.5] (237192.xs4all.nl [194.109.237.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by darwin.illian.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D090C4565D; Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:17:28 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20051125190919.GA54009@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20051123213916.GA7375@xor.obsecurity.org> <50249.62.58.16.80.1132821908.squirrel@www.illian.net> <20051124202231.GA29868@xor.obsecurity.org> <37161.62.58.16.80.1132921321.squirrel@www.illian.net> <20051125190919.GA54009@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <270DD688-5EB9-4B52-9B29-500948880610@illian.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rutger Bevaart Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:17:11 +0100 To: Kris Kennaway X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at illian.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD unstable on Dell 1750 using SMP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:17:20 -0000 On Nov 25, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > As I said twice already, the stats leak is ***HARMLESS***. It only > gives the wrong value to counters that are unused for anything except > reporting to the user. > Aha, that's what I was trying to clear up when the whole counters issue came along in the first place. Must have missed your previous remark about it. >> No way we'll be upgrading to 6.0 without knowing exactly what >> is going on (remembering broken 4.10 -> 5.3 systems) ... > > 5.4 -> 6.0 is really a very minor jump. But if you're not willing to > even test it out on one machine to see whether it resolves your > problems, you'll likely just have to get used to the instability until > someone can identify your problem and then fix it. > Of course I'm trying it out, it's just hard to get a spare Dell 2850 and put it through the same day-to-day use as the rest of them. That's a matter of cost. On other posts I've basically offered anything short of root access to resolve this. There are actually quite a group of people with issues with this. Some think it's an ACPI issue. An irq conflict with USB has been suggested. the 'em' driver was suspect, the 'bge' driver was suspect, the 'amr' driver was suspect. Funny thing is we have this 1750 (2x 2.4 Xeon) that takes a major hitting each day, running 5.3-BETA6. Hasn't crashed ever. If you have any clues on where I can look further (previous posts at: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-smp/2005-July/000930.html) greatly appreciated. Regards & thanks for all the help, Rutger