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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32a:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dhvG43KrMz3T95 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------L0As4z80zMWs3SWXnoIKDPwK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 01/01/2026 09:26, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > … "broken threads". … True, however in my experience (a) the positive value added the by the content of Mark's emails FAR outweighs (b) the negatives of a person choosing to work, within the constraints and very many peculiarities of email, in a way that pleases the person. This is also a belated public thank-you to Mark, for the immense help that he has provided. People's brains ways work in many different ways. Not everyone wishes to maintain a colossal local archive of things that cannot be found, or browsed and understood with ease, with official remote archives. --------------L0As4z80zMWs3SWXnoIKDPwK Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 01/01/2026 09:26, Tomoaki AOKI wrote:

… "broken threads". …


True, however in my experience (a) the positive value added the by the content of Mark's emails FAR outweighs (b) the negatives of a person choosing to work, within the constraints and very many peculiarities of email, in a way that pleases the person.

This is also a belated public thank-you to Mark, for the immense help that he has provided.

People's brains ways work in many different ways. 

Not everyone wishes to maintain a colossal local archive of things that cannot be found, or browsed and understood with ease, with official remote archives. 

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