From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 6 09:22:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D70716A401 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 09:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from hood.oook.cz (hood.oook.cz [195.250.137.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653CE43D46 for ; Sat, 6 May 2006 09:22:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from ikaros.oook.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hood.oook.cz (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k469M9F9072407 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 May 2006 11:22:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pav@localhost) by ikaros.oook.cz (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k469M9TY072406; Sat, 6 May 2006 11:22:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pav@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: ikaros.oook.cz: pav set sender to pav@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Pav Lucistnik To: Lyndon Nerenberg In-Reply-To: <20060505200804.I49507@orthanc.ca> References: <200605041507.08581.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <200605051346.39823.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <20060505175533.GA3384@xor.obsecurity.org> <200605051414.02384.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <1146867318.62735.9.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> <20060505200804.I49507@orthanc.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-kCqbzYucKtPEKHsE+QiI" Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 11:22:09 +0200 Message-Id: <1146907329.72215.5.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: An autoconf bikeshed X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pav@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 09:22:12 -0000 --=-kCqbzYucKtPEKHsE+QiI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lyndon Nerenberg p=ED=B9e v p=E1 05. 05. 2006 v 20:11 -0600: > On Sat, 6 May 2006, Pav Lucistnik wrote: >=20 > > It's also no longer imake, but autotools based. >=20 > That is *not* an improvement! >=20 > Have you noticed how autoconf has become such a bloated twisted mass of=20 > goo that it now needs its own configuration tool? It has become a parody= =20 > of itself. >=20 > This is not progress. One major advantage of using autotools over imake is that now you can paralellize the build using make -jX flags. You can't with imake. That's essentially cutting the compile times in half on dual-core computers. One major drawback of using autotools is that every distfile grows about 250 kB of repeated code. With modular X, that's a lot of bytes to transfer. As for developers use, I'd say much more people today are familiar with autotools then with imake. Imake is a dying beast. Going with mainstream is always good to get more people involved. --=20 Pav Lucistnik Autumn changed into Winter ... Winter changed into Spring ... Spring changed back into Autumn and Autumn gave Winter and Spring a miss and went straight on into Summer --=-kCqbzYucKtPEKHsE+QiI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Toto je =?iso-8859-2?Q?digit=E1ln=EC?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_podepsan=E1?= =?iso-8859-2?Q?_=E8=E1st?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_zpr=E1vy?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBEXGrBntdYP8FOsoIRAgFkAJ4ozjVSB22hwptVJGnoCCPjaGLvPwCfR/YN m0VWPb3KF+kXdX55WMPnvJk= =ASQV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-kCqbzYucKtPEKHsE+QiI--