From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 8 21:46:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A20216A4CE for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:46:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from palrel13.hp.com (atorelbas04.hp.com [156.153.255.238]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF8443D41 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 21:46:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thad.butterworth@hp.com) Received: from cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net (cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net [16.92.1.72]) by palrel13.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5411C08522; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net ([16.88.97.3]) by cacexg12.americas.cpqcorp.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:45:38 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:45:38 -0700 Message-ID: <2D8BB15C7B5C214F81C32D3A83B32736019A0AF2@idbexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: difference between releases Thread-Index: AcTFzT0rMetoMDRYQsmCAr/GqmLhFAADmdjQ From: "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2004 21:45:38.0800 (UTC) FILETIME=[49643F00:01C4C5DC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: difference between releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:46:03 -0000 So we went from three losers to four bozos. What's it going to be for five, six, seven, and eight? What I'm trying to tell you is, although I feel no animosity towards you, it would be really nice if you would just be helpful and constructive, rather than negative and whining. The people who have responded to you have only voiced what most of us on the list are feeling.=20 =20 By the way, I've tested our competitions printers. HP's printers are far better designed than anything else I've worked with. The point is programming and computer technologies are very young fields. You're going to find problems whether it's closed or open source. Just don't get bitter about it. Work instead to make it better instead of complaining about everything. Like I said previously, let's see some helpful suggestions. =20 Thad =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ From: TM4526@aol.com [mailto:TM4526@aol.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:58 PM To: Butterworth, Thaddaeus (Manpower Contract) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: difference between releases =20 In a message dated 11/8/04 2:41:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, thad.butterworth@hp.com writes: >As far as open-open source being the only one in beta, I work in >development where our code is closed-source. Even we have to admit that >our releases fit better into the category of BETA than RELEASE. Which is pretty-much why I haven't bought or recommended anything from HP since the LaserJet Plus. I wonder how they feel about you revealing that? =20 Please lets not get into "yet-another" open-source discussion. My only=20 point was that a "Release" should not be "just another snapshot", there should be some "plan". If the 4 bozos who jump on everything I say will just cut back on the coffee there wouldn't be so much BS.