From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Jul 6 15:16:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA21337B400 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CPE0030ab0ef2bb.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (CPE0030ab0ef2bb.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.103.202.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1258143E09 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 15:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from munish@CPE0030ab0ef2bb.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Received: by dhcppc1 (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1D3E1CB9; Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 18:18:31 -0400 From: Munish Chopra To: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Package system flaws? Message-ID: <20020706221830.GA318@CPE0030ab0ef2bb.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> Mail-Followup-To: arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020706220511.GA88651@scoobysnax.jaded.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020706220511.GA88651@scoobysnax.jaded.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2002-07-06 18:05 +0000, Dan Moschuk wrote: > > I've been doing some thinking lately about our ports system versus what > other systems have adopted and was curious as to what people think on > the subject? What does FreeBSD do well? Where can we improve? How does it > rate against the umpteen Linux flavours? > > I'm not sure that this classifies as an architectual discussion (for now) > so if you feel its appropriate please feel free to redirect to ports@. > > Cheers, > -Dan > A while back I heard some 'rumours' (oh boy, rumours...) that FreeBSD was either going to switch to OpenPackages or to a new XML-based system. This was around the same time jkh posted something on the subject of ports or sysinstall or in that direction. In any case, OpenPackages has lost wind for now, though I've been told they just need someone to pick up the slack and get everyone rolling again. As for our current ports system, many people (including me, though I'm by no means an expert on the subject) feel that it's very limiting and has some substantial flaws (concept is great, implementation is lacking). Most of these come up when you're porting an app and you need to make some ugly hacks for stuff to work the way you want it to. Also, looking at the 'big picture', a few other concerns come up. I'm sure some other people have more concrete things to say. -- Munish Chopra The FreeBSD NVIDIA Driver Initiative http://nvidia.netexplorer.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message