From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Mar 4 22:55:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pioneernet.net (mail.pioneernet.net [207.115.64.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E596537B416 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip.wiegand.org [66.114.152.128] by pioneernet.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id ABC15880148; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 22:54:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:56:28 +0000 From: Chip Wiegand To: hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) Cc: ob1@yifan.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I bought your system and am not so happy! Message-Id: <20020304225628.0f39a1e5.chip@wiegand.org> In-Reply-To: <200203050248.g252m2S56492@sheol.localdomain> References: <20020305022609.8E7EA37B400_hub.freebsd.org@ns.sol.net> <200203050248.g252m2S56492@sheol.localdomain> Organization: Alternative Operating Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.0claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.5) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:48:02 -0600 (CST) hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) wrote: > In article <20020305022609.8E7EA37B400_hub.freebsd.org@ns.sol.net>, > ob1@yifan.net writes: > > I bought your system and I am pretty happy. > > > > I'll start w/ my question first then talk about my transition / > > install experience (experience is probably a m$ trademark by now) > > > > Having succesfully installed 4.4 from the powerpack I'm curious > > whether I should just get ahold of 4.5 and re-install before I get > > to far. I am really fond of kde2 and seem to remember reading that > > this is not in the 4.5 dist. is this true or am I just misinformed? > > I can't answer this directly, but if so, the ports collections may > have it for you. Read up on installing and updating the ports > collection on your machine, and post another question after that if it > still isn't clear. > > I don't think there's anything vis-a-vis 4.4 and 4.5 toi prevent KDE2 > from running on your box, but I may be wrong. There was a fairly long thread on this in the last month or two, check the archives. One message mentioned a web site address to download all the kde2 freebsd files - ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/kde/stable/2.2.2/FreeBSD/All/ Put all the files (somewhere around 65-70) in the /usr/ports/distfiles directory and then use the pkg_add command to install them all. It worked for me. Though I typically use XFCE, not KDE, I just wanted certain apps. Regardless of how you install it, it will take quite some time, so brew some fresh java, or whatever you prefer. :-) -- Chip > > -----------------My Install------------------------------------- > > > > I now boot m$, SuSE linux, BeOS, qnx rtp, and amithalon on this box. > > This weekend I added freeBSD4.4 (powerpak edition) to that list. > > I probably installed it 6 or 7 times (me not so smart). Read > > furthur. > > Most folk I know need at least two tries on their first installation. > I think it took me three or four before I was satisfied (mostly with > the partition sizes). > > You next one will be quite a bit easier, though, won't it? > > > Had I been clueless I am sure that I would have taken the package > > back to the store, The online info and the book definitely give > > anyone with an interest in freeBSD enough info to decide for > > themselves whether or not they should go through with an > > installation. > > > > I was tempted to return it as the disk/partition/slice terminology > > seemed crazy to me, and I had no desire to break what I had working, > > but finally I took the plunge. > > Greg's book is wonderful. I've heard good things anout Annalisa's > (sp?), too, though I haven't browsed it. > > > There was nothing that I ever read that said, "Just go do it, This > > will replace windows and the mac. Nothing will go wrong and you > > won't need to learn anything." > > And you won't find any such text. I know of only two companies that > might or will say that, and only one can really get away with it. Can > you guess? > > > Now the good news. I finally did get freeBSD running. I believe all > > of my problems came down to a combination of 2 things, > > > > 1) xfree86 still has a way to go as far as being easy to set up. > > I kept thinking this was the source of my failures. > > You're quite right, but you can't blame FreeBSD for this! > > > 2) There was nothing to warn me that choosing high security (rather > > than moderate) in sysinstall would keep the xserver from > > being able to start. THIS WAS A BUGGER. > > Didn't the F1 "help" mention it? IIRC, 4.5's does, but again, it may > not, as I blew by it pretty fast, and mostly from curiosity. I already > was aware of this. > > > Finally after my 6th or 7th install it occured to me to try some of > > the online documentation, low and behold there was the info I > > needed. Sure I could have read all of the online docs before > > installing but I would have expected such an important and basic > > piece of info to be right there in the installation help file or in > > the general Installation documents. > > Glad to read that you had the perseverance (stubbornness?) to overcome > the obstacles. Bravo. > > > Anyway all is well, I look forward to a more "Desktop" related > > distribution but by the time it arrives I hope I won't need it. > > :-) > > Keep up the perseverance (stubbornness). The reward is worth it. > > > dh > > Dave > > -- > > Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" > Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" > FreeBSD: "Are you guys coming, or what?" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message