From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jul 11 20:20:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18777 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18696 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id MAA29941; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:49:13 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980712124913.R23241@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:49:13 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Frank Pawlak , Brett Glass , Pat Lynch Cc: Wes Peters , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@canonware.com, smoergrd@oslo.geco-prakla.slb.com Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and multiple copyright holders) References: <199807110349.VAA28411@lariat.lariat.org> <19980711142500.C23241@freebie.lemis.com> <980712031453.ZM14755@darkstar.connect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <980712031453.ZM14755@darkstar.connect.com>; from Frank Pawlak on Sun, Jul 12, 1998 at 03:14:53AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 12 July 1998 at 3:14:53 +0000, Frank Pawlak wrote: > On Jul 11, 2:25pm, Greg Lehey wrote: >> Subject: Re: Microsoft's breaches of contract (was: FBSD license and mult >> On Saturday, 11 July 1998 at 0:34:56 -0400, Pat Lynch wrote: >>> On Fri, 10 Jul 1998, Brett Glass wrote: >>>> Interestingly, the Microsoft Windows 95 implementations of a few TCP/IP >>>> utilities are said to have Berkeley copyright notices in the code, which >>>> means they're probably derived from FreeBSD utilities. Is Microsoft giving >>>> credit to the developers? If it isn't, it may be violating the >>>> Berkeley-style license and thus could be the target of a copyright >>>> lawsuit. >>>> >>>> Hmmm. Now there's an idea. Anyone care to research this? >>> >>> I talked to a guy from Apple, and they use alot of BSD derived code in Mac >>> OS X Server (Rhapsody 1.0) and they said they do not have to distribute >>> code, just include UCB's copyright notice >> >> That's correct. >> >>> and make the code available on request.... >> >> No, there's no obligation to make the code available on request. >> >>> now MS *might* do this if we asked (unlikely, but hey, worth a try) >> >> It would certainly be worth a try. > > God Greg, why would you ever want Micros*@#t code? I am sure on you worst days > you write better code by accident than they do on purpose. ;-) I think we're misunderstanding each other. I was suggesting that somebody (not me :-) should try to get Microslop to adhere to the license conditions and declare that their software includes Berkeley-derived programs. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message