From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Mar 24 23:52:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7568837B405 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g2P7qaA98905; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 01:52:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 01:52:36 -0600 From: Tim To: Brad Knowles Cc: Taylor Dondich , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: qmail (Was: Maintaining Access Control Lists ) Message-ID: <20020325015236.A97552@futuresouth.com> References: <20020323002608.B20699@ra <000c01c1d3ab$6d2c6960$6600a8c0@penguin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 08:11:42AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > However, this is the real power of the Unix "toolbox" philosophy > -- you can put the tools together that you want, in most any way you > want, making the result do just about whatever you want. > Unfortunately, Dan breaks this philosophy by tightly integrating all > his tools together, and making it so that they are all > interdependent. You are kidding right? It looks to me that you are completely blinded by your disdain for Dan. You don't think Postfix took a lot of design hints from qmail? qmail is one of the most modular systems out there. > For example, you can't use the standard inetd that > ships with your system, you are instead forced to use his tcpserver. > And heaven help you if you need to do something that isn't covered by > his tools, because Dan sure won't. From the INSTALL file on a qmail-1.03 distribution 16. Set up qmail-smtpd in /etc/inetd.conf (all on one line): smtp stream tcp nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd > because sooner or later I believe that you are either going to need > to do something that Dan does not consider to be important, or you > are going to run afoul of personality issues with him yourself -- > either way, you will then be out in the cold. the qmail user community is more than sufficient for support. I like Postfix myself, but you are so blatantly biased I am not sure you are any better than what you are accusing Dan of. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message