Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 17:47:13 +0100 From: Michael Schuster <michaelsprivate@gmail.com> To: Karel Gardas <gardask@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: <CADqw_g%2BaEdC=YC2qCFF1dXfzGxJm9qHNN4KmDSiVWb7Ry62Z3A@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2b7022b7-2225-aa19-24fd-d60be9d30d0d@gmail.com> References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <61100a28-40ae-4458-d7d5-3bc9b13ba219@gmail.com> <CADqw_gKkii%2BBHk7_jPE0DV5ZdF86ydEq956WDtZOP1N9GBjAPw@mail.gmail.com> <2b7022b7-2225-aa19-24fd-d60be9d30d0d@gmail.com>
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--0000000000000fce8705d4eca079 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 16:42 Karel Gardas <gardask@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/29/21 8:12 PM, Michael Schuster wrote: > > Hi Karel, > > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 19:32 Karel Gardas <gardask@gmail.com > > <mailto:gardask@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/23/21 11:41 PM, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > > > Hello FreeBSD community, > > > > > > The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new projects to > > support. What > > > gaps in the Project are not being addressed by the broader > community? > > > > sorry for being late with those: > > > > 1) implement/port beadm equivalent from Solaris/IlumosOS? Make > > freebsd-update process more reversible by using proper boot > > environments > > and using ZFS snapshots. > > > > > > All of these have been in FreeBSD for quite a while - can't give you > > dates or specifics (port vs "builtin"), but I've been using them since > > at least 13. > > Went ahead to properly verify the fact on fresh 13 install on ZFS root > and no. The feature is not there yet. E.g. > > - bectl is presented in 13-p0 - 13-p5 > - freebsd-update does not contain any reference to bectl hence it cannot > create snapshot on update on 13-p0 - 13-p5. > Hmmm... I thought I was referring to ZFS, BEs and beadm (equiv) only, not -update. Sorry if my message was confusing (and I'm too lazy to go back and check all the old emails :)) > However, freebsd-update in 13-STABLE (source code) contains bectl bits > to handle snapshoting on update as proposed for inclusion here: > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21892 > > So my conclusion is, perhaps with 13-p6 it'll be first time the feature > will be user-visible and usable. > > Sorry for nitpicking but needed to know that for sure. > NP Michael > > Thanks, > Karel > --0000000000000fce8705d4eca079 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 16:42 Karel Gardas <<a href=3D= "mailto:gardask@gmail.com">gardask@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><block= quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc= solid;padding-left:1ex">On 12/29/21 8:12 PM, Michael Schuster wrote:<br> > Hi Karel,<br> > <br> > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 19:32 Karel Gardas <<a href=3D"mailto:gardask= @gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">gardask@gmail.com</a> <br> > <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:gardask@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel= =3D"noreferrer">gardask@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 11/23/21 11:41 PM, Joseph Mingrone wrote:<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Hello FreeBSD community,<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new= projects to<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0support.=C2=A0 What<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > gaps in the Project are not being addressed b= y the broader community?<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0sorry for being late with those:<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A01) implement/port beadm equivalent from Solaris/Ilu= mosOS? Make<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0freebsd-update process more reversible by using pro= per boot<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0environments<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and using ZFS snapshots. <br> > <br> > <br> > All of these have been in FreeBSD for quite a while - can't give y= ou <br> > dates or specifics (port vs "builtin"), but I've been us= ing them since <br> > at least 13.<br> <br> Went ahead to properly verify the fact on fresh 13 install on ZFS root <br> and no. The feature is not there yet. E.g.<br> <br> - bectl is presented in 13-p0 - 13-p5<br> - freebsd-update does not contain any reference to bectl hence it cannot <b= r> create snapshot on update on 13-p0 - 13-p5.<br></blockquote></div></div><di= v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Hmmm= ... I thought I was referring to ZFS, BEs and beadm (equiv) only, not -upda= te. Sorry if my message was confusing (and I'm too lazy to go back and = check all the old emails :))=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di= r=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty= le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> However, freebsd-update in 13-STABLE (source code) contains bectl bits <br> to handle snapshoting on update as proposed for inclusion here: <br> <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21892" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer= " target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21892</a><br>; <br> So my conclusion is, perhaps with 13-p6 it'll be first time the feature= <br> will be user-visible and usable.<br> <br> Sorry for nitpicking but needed to know that for sure.<br></blockquote></di= v></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">NP=C2=A0</div><div di= r=3D"auto">Michael=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> Thanks,<br> Karel<br> </blockquote></div></div></div> --0000000000000fce8705d4eca079--
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