From nobody Mon Jul 20 17:27:46 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4h3nXX0FhFz6mGmN for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2026 17:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x336.google.com (mail-wm1-x336.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::336]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4h3nXW4vWwz3S5H for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2026 17:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-wm1-x336.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-49546c690ffso27092715e9.2 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:27:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20251104; t=1784568469; x=1785173269; darn=freebsd.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references :in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:date:from:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to:content-type; bh=02n8fMW5q8JV1MdafiqA2Qi7i4Rir5ViWM/PVon5tqE=; b=hA7c94hphR2NjtlEQaxcS+Q9cgiOPoWRsNdimaW8LtmwEqOtgqEcOyltBt4/3eBS6H 57HCFe992A20k2Kqv5vtXs6m9KHyJ+9I1fLxWRmbFyVCzn2o4Y10JGAayLwt+o4mz9HP gNQ2EsfLSDJNGrcUCRJqvz8R+mlz2W2Kje0H4kTGiiqI+k7E6RmHiDmkdW0T57zJIpPg kdNslIz9H28bxemDzSjCRjHd489IMoNjKeLdX2rnoq9S++eTuEXyafsM3hhYhFOZA5pA RQuyxkj+RBY6ZCY2piivIOuAvJCWMmO4p4WrFutdO83iT8PkgWQMWJPuHlChW2aM8xmh QLDw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1784568469; x=1785173269; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references :in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:date:from:x-gm-gg :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to :content-type; bh=02n8fMW5q8JV1MdafiqA2Qi7i4Rir5ViWM/PVon5tqE=; b=QtLyjyMgJg/JP5DgfANzQ2W9rpfiGAbcZAPDjGCipgACPW7SKcIu3KS18kzEgkYdVz NDrUG0kQWHldq10DZu8otnU8itIqhdCAR9m8h4P1biWJU64XMIGes3vOctbusVhUJgKo IzndbLqbr/pl/MphZ7RFKtuJSOudTBNocN/lHS7x2Dooi0hl/dtZ+CY6oV9z5GmKCRho 0uYXANoEjadOUPCRGIe1ut0XDnhMp+VbwALRxz1p3tPeOGwfKbfy4Tej5Tn+avLSZ61z r8FzfFKmWMqn9abQ9NCo2MnExlR4qWI6BItNdF9toNM/AxPBrRcx/dDQerRrjmrhQVfG uUUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxlQ+Zu4hwi1PEhWbE/VaL05X0akuudyjGQU3Owq2jttDIzq+z2 LABIu12R/Ar5VUGIkyRV18rA4vPOI7VUsl4Q9IiBBRtt1TqrMbcVcUNu X-Gm-Gg: AfdE7cmz5TV3wnjNqpP+nD+AFemXMvSCND6SODAIr72pK7jauGxe8oHSr4YWJGi/NKk tCEjuj+LnbuGoV4hvbsHh9AgkuazBPm0ft1r99Szbdj1+g1qu55ziGtvIAf8mqFr4MVUEZKb4cf N5IGEPcqpkH2pncylUEyRe+0tawfEaxF+4IzQTFNN7KjjiPbZn3b7jZTKLF0zYbaDrCoRV0+WA9 +hoUk+QWfmVJxO9vL31Zf7q61e/GPQQOIP4TS0bHsqQFFeJ6sLnSA2eWm9RYgcHcEH5MfW/HFdE pkfwFiI4AjyfN7VQc60fbaQfg2tz+TZKH3fTsPR6GLHpz5rStDtafWj0dFD54a5QIt9FlhqgcR/ CFGsvoyc1qdy/sAcXbDi9l7r3lucbly7fLzv7Li2zkOghQFWjFv/Y5Fa7tVoqwo4kKdJZMPvDhK WjOj4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:35c2:b0:495:4c74:6a14 with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-4954c746bd4mr194362485e9.14.1784568469087; Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rimwks.local ([2001:470:1f1b:4dc:625:e87e:9477:e5b3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-495499a5847sm214517145e9.2.2026.07.20.10.27.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Rozhuk Ivan X-Google-Original-From: Rozhuk Ivan Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 20:27:46 +0300 To: vermaden Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org" , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Re: Tragic State of FreeBSD Audio/Sound Message-ID: <20260720202746.45869b21@rimwks.local> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.4.0 (GTK 3.24.52; amd64-portbld-freebsd15.1) List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4h3nXW4vWwz3S5H X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Mon, 20 Jul 2026 02:04:25 +0200 vermaden wrote: > I will not even start about PITA syntax of mixer(1) which went into > this: > > % mixer -f ${DEV} vol.volume=+0.05 Just use gtk-mixer, avail in ports. In recent years, I haven't noticed any bugs in the operation of the OSS.