From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 18 21:32:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7784916A400 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F50243D48 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:32:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 18 May 2006 21:32:09 -0000 Received: from p50911B40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO m2a2.dyndns.org) [80.145.27.64] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 18 May 2006 23:32:09 +0200 X-Authenticated: #428038 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237BC200528; Thu, 18 May 2006 23:32:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from m2a2.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (m2a2.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12277-13; Thu, 18 May 2006 23:32:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by merlin.emma.line.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id C13AC2012AD; Thu, 18 May 2006 23:32:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Matthias Andree To: Ion-Mihai "IOnut" Tetcu In-Reply-To: <20060518132527.37c9d23d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> (Ion-Mihai Tetcu's message of "Thu, 18 May 2006 13:25:27 +0300") References: <20060518132527.37c9d23d@it.buh.tecnik93.com> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:32:06 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at emma.line.org X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, jumper99@gmx.de Subject: Re: Attn. "Helmut Schneider" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:32:12 -0000 As I can inject my message directly to GMX, I'm Cc'ing Helmut Schneider. Ion-Mihai "IOnut" Tetcu writes: > gmx.de stupidly blocks mails from guys with @freebsd.org emails :) > > freebsd.org descriptive text "v=spf1 ip4:216.136.204.119 ~all" > means that listed ip is _NOT_ the only one legitimate SMTP server for freebsd.org. > > This last shit is nothing new as, in my experience, gmx.de is one of the > worse administered email servers. You might want to change your email > address to some other service, with at least half-competent admins. Wrong- the downstream is free to decide what to make of SPF information. GMX are responsive compared to other freemailers such as web.de which are utter crap. GMX allow the user to configure which "Spamschutz" (literally "spam protection") settings he wishes to employ, but there are some issues: * GMX try to persuade users to go with "the GMX recommended settings", which is "all filters on". * Some filter settings (all are configured through a web interface) require JavaScript. * GMX have split their filters into seven categories, but merged several services into the same option: 1 The "Spamserver-Blocker" is actually an SPF implementation, accompanied by a GMX internal list. Unfortunately, SPF is inseparable from the GMX internal list of SPF policies (AOL, Hotmail and stuff). HELMUT - the best bet is probably to disable the Spamserver-Blocker. (You need to personalize your Spamschutz settings) 2 The "Globale Antispam-Liste" is a mixture of: a - a blacklist of known spam sites (it's unclear how this overlaps with the "GMX Team Antispam-Liste" b - an open relay blocker c - a dialup blocker d - a blocker for SMTP servers whose IP cannot be resolved via DNS PTR records. This is all documented behind the "Hilfe" popups (Hilfe = help), only users need to be made aware of such, and they never see these options when using the GMX standard settings. For those who can read German, the full documentation is at An English translation of who can send to GMX.de is at > : host mx0.gmx.net[213.165.64.100] said: 550-5.7.1 {mx021} The > recipient does not accept mails from 'FreeBSD.org' over foreign > mailservers. 550-5.7.1 According to the domain's SPF record your host > '81.196.204.98' is not a designated sender. 550 5.7.1 ( > http://www.gmx.net/serverrules ) (in reply to RCPT TO command) And this looks like the "Spamserver-Blocker" in action. Personally, I have both The Spamserver Blocker and currently also the Global Antispam list off. I might turn the latter back on some day though, if traffic becomes too much to handle for after-the-fact filtering. HTH, -- Matthias Andree