From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 6 13:22:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BC03E4; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 13:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gkontos.mail@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pd0-x22d.google.com (mail-pd0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DEBA2EC3; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 13:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r10so10100798pdi.4 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:22:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Uak9Ar+ybFfpitQzhClmDUWfc48fKG6tehnAwtqh3QM=; b=lUpMLOmCKFcO6hdGaxwQwUBwFFH0VIxglvqeEYS7Pw1s/lfsrdlA352ZCzJcGX9FIO nhQqntelnvRKAErwLh+bh1tU9wDNwH82VXk+Zx1jBVCn2rUn5LRnS9nTumocuFHBWEAQ IIhipG5LCXiMzcUG+PQ6DrgMwZTJmgCDl7LYP1IbTf2gwYL/5pVmhVd5VFH9O1WnCWCq mxRQPH84JrM5P1iAdbLZIMfd64zz73OjtyKOVMuRF04tf+BPv1LUoFZAEpdgUuhB7UYa 5mksrCqSuY4xIt/0Vt/gFyLDOF2fV51x0U2++M48rH/WHNXd0WJm6vxIUm5IDimQrHY3 hfFQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.215.38 with SMTP id of6mr3322270pbc.14.1383744123961; Wed, 06 Nov 2013 05:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.248.106 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Nov 2013 05:22:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131104163457.GJ52889@FreeBSD.org> References: <20131103220654.GU52889@FreeBSD.org> <6AA4A8E1-CBCE-4C87-A320-BB08EC76715F@lassitu.de> <20131104083443.GZ52889@FreeBSD.org> <2B21E123-23BA-4E07-B9DD-9DE1CDE40D08@FreeBSD.org> <20131104163457.GJ52889@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 15:22:03 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10 Beta2 /etc/rc.d/named script and /etc/defaults/rc.conf From: George Kontostanos To: Gleb Smirnoff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: FreeBSD Release Engineering Team , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D6zkan_KIRIK?= , FreeBSD Current , freebsd-stable , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Stefan Bethke X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 13:22:04 -0000 On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 12:11:02PM +0100, Erwin Lansing wrote: > E> > On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 01:41:01AM +0200, George Kontostanos wrote: > E> > G> > Am 03.11.2013 um 23:06 schrieb Gleb Smirnoff >: > E> > G> > > E> > G> > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 10:05:02PM +0200, =D6zkan KIRIK wrote= : > E> > G> > > =D6> Altough bind removed from FreeBSD 10 distribution, > "/etc/rc.d/named" > E> > G> > script > E> > G> > > =D6> still exists. > E> > G> > > =D6> and this script depends on "/etc/mtree/BIND.chroot.dist" > file but > E> > G> > there is > E> > G> > > =D6> no such file in source tree. > E> > G> > > =D6> I think this file was forgotten to be removed. > E> > G> > > =D6> > E> > G> > > =D6> And also, named_* definitions still exists in > /etc/defaults/rc.conf > E> > G> > file. > E> > G> > > > E> > G> > > Please review attached file that removes named from /etc. > E> > G> > > E> > G> > It would be great if the port would learn to install its own > script etc. > E> > G> > in time for that change. (Unless it=92s already there, and I=92= m > just too blind > E> > G> > to see it.) > E> > G> > E> > G> No you are not blind. Installing bind from ports still relies on > the > E> > G> /etc/rc.d/named script. > E> > > E> > Erwin, can you please handle that? > E> > E> Things are much worse that this, the ports are completely written unde= r > the assumption that there is a Bind in base, which of course would alread= y > break with WITHOUT_BIND before Bind was completely removed. It will be > hard to fix without breaking the installed base of 8 and 9. Sigh. > E> > E> I'll try to work on it this week, but unfortunately have a full > schedule of meetings and travel as well. > Suggestion. An option to install the rc script would solve that problem. > > What should we do with src? > > IMO, we should proceed with removal of remnants of bind in src. In the > worst case, > if you can't handle it this week, the situation will be the following: > > 1) 8.x, 9.x users are okay > 2) 10+.x users w/o bind are okay > 3) 10+.x users with bind have problems > > If we skip updating src, then situation would be: > > 1) 8.x, 9.x users are okay > 2) 10+.x users w/o bind have problems > 3) 10+.x users with bind are okay > > I think, there are less 10.x users with bind, than 10.x without it. > > Please warn about this in UPDATING. I am personally use 12 FreeBSD servers as dedicated DNS servers only. > -- > Totus tuus, Glebius. > --=20 George Kontostanos --- http://www.aisecure.net