From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 11 13:30:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E21106568B for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:30:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from break19@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx0-f182.google.com (mail-yx0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0438FC08 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yenl2 with SMTP id l2so3047656yen.13 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:30:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=lJSMgANkzFPnnCWA7zHRclMUztiYqmkIYN4QROykKuk=; b=itGGEoSftGoZJFdWWWZbYQslRsVAWOeCk6LHUMnP2VQ/rKmSYhXVmwry9G9J5IXoPb 2U1wDWs5m30lFNW9lRLWp1yu5Wge/NEUuiBGAfkqVnjb09O8W977gzQBlfZ1DyD5q1CL 1rygojTAyj/GxXBf1iohzq/4EmOxzL1WK/Qpc= Received: by 10.101.194.39 with SMTP id w39mr2440981anp.115.1321018256612; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from funbeast.localnet (c-98-230-65-110.hsd1.al.comcast.net. [98.230.65.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i67sm17008473yhm.16.2011.11.11.05.30.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:30:56 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Burns To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:30:29 -0600 Message-ID: <2185571.xNZoOVfxaV@funbeast> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.3 (Linux/3.1.0-gentoo; KDE/4.7.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <2171368.58yxYs0Lbv@funbeast> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: Subject: Re: Use of newest version number such as 10.0 instead of current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:30:57 -0000 On Friday, November 11, 2011 08:17:52 AM you wrote: -snip- > My sentence is NOT about "Current" , but 9.0 RC1 . > Perhaps , you will NOT say , if a person is NOT knowledgeable , he should > NOT use 9.0 RC1 . > If you use a proper RC, then pkg_add will work until a new RC, and since there is no binary upgrade path for anything other than releases, you will need to reinstall, with the newly released RC. -snip- > Up to now , my most disappointed situation is that , there is NO any > tendency to > lower required expertise level to use FreeBSD . > Such an approach is confining FreeBSD to a small number of elite users > when compared to millions of Linux users let alone hundred millions of > some other operating systems which they are approaching to billions when > version users are summed in spite of paying money also . GhostBSD, PCBSD are two options for "lower expertise" and, as such, are billed as desktop versions of FreeBSD. FreeBSD itself (as well as the other BSDs) is a minimalistic OS, where you can build your own system, making it either into a server, workstation, or even into a desktop system if you so desire. If you want something with point-n-click ease of use, go use one of the two desktop-oriented versions. Both GhostBSD, and PCBSD are just a desktop environment built on top of FreeBSD. PCBSD even has a 9.0 RC out now as well, if you're into testing. PCBSD uses the kde environment, and GhostBSD uses the gnome 2.32 environment. If you want something else, feel free to create your own. There is nothing in the BSD license that prevents you from doing that. Instead of complaining that SOMEONE ELSE should do something that YOU want done, why not just do it yourself. In other words, put up, or shut up. :) Chuck Burns