From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 14 23:04:57 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFA2106564A for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFF88FC12 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0924AE80C51; Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:05:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:05:01 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20101114230501.GB10006@thought.org> References: <201011132032.oADKW4FG025920@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20101113220559.GE45921@guilt.hydra> <4cdfa533.KmbS7pHvQ3h+K92G%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20101114204450.GA9247@thought.org> <20101114220249.GC43542@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101114220249.GC43542@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:04:57 -0000 On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:02:49PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Gary Kline on Sunday, 14 November 2010: > > > > > > Just about the whole Murray Hill gang stopped by Cray > > (in Chippewa Falls), late 80's, and I remember asking Dennis > > what the deal was with "C++"; I remember him dodging the > > thing. Whoever-invented-C++ did a convoluted job, i s my > > opinion. It might be nice to add classes to C, but that's > > about it. > > > The inventor of C++ is Bjarne Stroustrop. I had the chance opportunity > to sit down at a table with him and have a conversation prior to an SD > West conference several years ago. He's a nice guy, with a great sense > of humor -- but even he admits "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the > foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off." > http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bjarne_Stroustrup > I'm sure I had my share of disasters with C++ hacking test code , but OMG, the head banging was nothing compared to heavy C coding in the early days. The number of segv's brings back evil memories:-) That, and having to take a notebook and draw out where you were [or _thought_ you were] pointing to. --Things they can't teach very well in the classroom-- that sort of stuff. Great quote! > > > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://journey.thought.org For non-text MUA's http://theopenpress.com/index.php?a=print&code=00&id=88532